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Old June 16 2013, 12:13 AM   #61
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

The other thing is Africa / The full Hartnell rumour largely comes from the Sierra Leone incident (who reportedly had most of season three up until 1999-2002, which was subsequently destroyed in the civil war).

Throw in a prominent missing Dalek story and you'll have a pretty tasty rumour to throw around...
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Old June 16 2013, 02:17 AM   #62
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http://missingepisodes.blogspot.co.n...anyprints.html

Pick your African nation.

I'm saying Zambia, although that still doesn't cover The Tenth Planet or The Evil of the Daleks.

They've probably found the trailer to An Unearthly Child or something...
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Old June 16 2013, 11:02 PM   #63
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Re: Rumors of a Special Surprise for the Anniversary

Ian Levine has been on a Twitter tear this evening on the rumored discoveries. I'll let his final word speak for itself:

Absolute Last Word. I spent 35 years looking for episodes since I saved The Daleks from being destroyed. I am convinced none have been found
He could very easily be correct. At the same time, I can't dismiss the possibility that his vehemence is down to the fact that he wasn't at the center of this purported discovery.
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Old June 16 2013, 11:25 PM   #64
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I'm reminded of Clarke's First Law: "When a distinguished, elderly scientist says that something is possible, he is very probably right. When a distinguished, elderly scientist says that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong." Levine may very well be right, but appeal to authority is not proof.
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Old June 16 2013, 11:47 PM   #65
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Ian Levine has been on a Twitter tear this evening on the rumored discoveries. I'll let his final word speak for itself:

Absolute Last Word. I spent 35 years looking for episodes since I saved The Daleks from being destroyed. I am convinced none have been found
He could very easily be correct. At the same time, I can't dismiss the possibility that his vehemence is down to the fact that he wasn't at the center of this purported discovery.
It really depends on how you take Ian. When Galaxy 4 3 and The Underwater Menace 2 were found mid-2011, only six people knew/were told. I don't believe Ian was one of them. They kept the secret for six months until it was broadcast at the BFI in December.

If there really is a monumental discovery about to be revealed - and I still don't believe it - then he may not be in the loop. In which case from his perspective he's telling the truth.
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Old June 17 2013, 01:01 AM   #66
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Candlelight wrote: View Post
Allyn Gibson wrote: View Post
Ian Levine has been on a Twitter tear this evening on the rumored discoveries. I'll let his final word speak for itself:

Absolute Last Word. I spent 35 years looking for episodes since I saved The Daleks from being destroyed. I am convinced none have been found
He could very easily be correct. At the same time, I can't dismiss the possibility that his vehemence is down to the fact that he wasn't at the center of this purported discovery.
It really depends on how you take Ian. When Galaxy 4 3 and The Underwater Menace 2 were found mid-2011, only six people knew/were told. I don't believe Ian was one of them. They kept the secret for six months until it was broadcast at the BFI in December.

If there really is a monumental discovery about to be revealed - and I still don't believe it - then he may not be in the loop. In which case from his perspective he's telling the truth.
Wait, you mean Ian Levine isn't the center of all things Doctor Who?!
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Old June 17 2013, 02:40 AM   #67
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In 1998, Ian Levine said on camera for a BBC video documentary: "I think there will always be 110 missing episodes" (paraphrase, but largely accurate).
Six months later, The Crusade 1 turned up. At the time, people wondered if we could get him to keep making a similarly authorative statement about the number of missing episodes on the release of that episode so fate could be tempted to prove him wrong again...
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Old June 17 2013, 03:38 AM   #68
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I didn't grow up in the time of Classic Doctor Who -- or in England -- so whenever I hear the name "Ian Levine" I think of "Doctor in Distress" and laugh a little. I guess I'm a rebellious youth that can't respect her elders. : P
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Old June 17 2013, 03:49 AM   #69
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In 1998, Ian Levine said on camera for a BBC video documentary: "I think there will always be 110 missing episodes" (paraphrase, but largely accurate).
Six months later, The Crusade 1 turned up. At the time, people wondered if we could get him to keep making a similarly authorative statement about the number of missing episodes on the release of that episode so fate could be tempted to prove him wrong again...
And he has obliged. There was also a round of "There will always be 108 missing episodes" between "Day of Armageddon" and "Air Lock"/"The Underwater Menace" 2, I believe.
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Old June 17 2013, 08:04 AM   #70
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In 1998, Ian Levine said on camera for a BBC video documentary: "I think there will always be 110 missing episodes" (paraphrase, but largely accurate).
Six months later, The Crusade 1 turned up. At the time, people wondered if we could get him to keep making a similarly authorative statement about the number of missing episodes on the release of that episode so fate could be tempted to prove him wrong again...
I'm sure Ian recites that exact prayer every night before bed.
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Old June 17 2013, 12:30 PM   #71
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Grateful to Levine for saving a fair amount of classic episodes, but he once treated me in such a vile, despicable way that I frankly wish the man nothing but the worst in life. I can't stress enough how little empathy that man has for his fellow men.

Still reckon he's right though. This has been the year consisting of Who fandom falling for bullshit rumours every third week or so.
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Old June 17 2013, 02:11 PM   #72
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^Which makes it different from every other fandom how?
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Old June 17 2013, 03:42 PM   #73
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Ian Levine has continued to tweet, and claims (a) he first heard these rumors two years ago but was asked not to discuss them "because it could jeopardise the recovery"; (b) the alleged discoverer is the same person who returned two episodes of The Sky at Night over the past couple years; (c) the number of allegedly-discovered missing Who episodes is not 60 but 90, completing 21 stories, among 8000 BBC film cans; (d) the 16 still-missing episodes were "Mission to the Unknown," 9 from "The Daleks' Master Plan," and two each from "The Invasion," "The Ice Warriors," and "The Wheel in Space"; and (e) he longer believes anything has been found, in part because there were knowledgeable people at a recent BFI event who told him so. Oh, and Dan Hall, responsible for the recent missing episode DVD animations, was kept out of the loop on these alleged discoveries, which I guess is meant to explain why "The Reign of Terror" and "The Tenth Planet" were animated despite having been, according to these rumors, found.

...Gosh, this is a fun little drama to follow.
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Old June 17 2013, 03:51 PM   #74
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Personally if I wanted to keep anything secret, the last person I'd tell would be Mr Levine. I suspect, if the rumours have any truth in them, that those in the know will be feeling likewise.
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Old June 17 2013, 04:15 PM   #75
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It's probably going to be a never before seen version of Fear Her that's a whole five minutes longer!!
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