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Old October 7 2013, 06:17 PM   #631
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But the BBC hasn't announced anything yet.
As I said. But if the rumors and the latest tabloid claims are even remotely true, they've done a poor job of prepping what they've chosen to present as a major news story. If the rumors aren't true, then they're probably still trying to figure out how to defuse this bizarre bomb.

I think it's plain from the wording in the Radio Times article that they're working from sources rather than from an embargoed press release for imminent distribution (which is the only context in which the often-used word "embargo" actually means anything; the BBC doesn't go round saying "this story exists, but please don't write about it for a few weeks"). Stuff based on a press release isn't larded with "understands" and "sources."
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Old October 7 2013, 06:32 PM   #632
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They announced the announcement, it's better to go with that than cancel the announcment! Now, they're just pissing people off! And, I'm usually patient!
The BBC haven't announced anything. A tabloid newspaper made a claim, as did a TV listings magazine that has nothing to do with the BBC anymore.
Oops, I thought the Radio Times was run by the BBC. Well, given how the situation has played out, even if not their fault, the BBC should've just stuck with the regularly scheduled press conference. At the conference, they could confirm the found episodes and say that they'll be available on iTunes soon.

That's a bit more rational approach that would show flexibility to a changing situation.

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Old October 7 2013, 06:37 PM   #633
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The Guardian has run with it, and are now saying announcement on Thursday.

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...-recovered-bbc
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Old October 7 2013, 06:37 PM   #634
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Oops, I thought the Radio Times was run by the BBC.

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BBC Magazines was sold off last year, and moved out to Bristol. Though I believe the BBC still has some hold on the Radio Times name, which is licensed out to the new company.
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Old October 7 2013, 06:39 PM   #635
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The Guardian has run with it, and are now saying announcement on Thursday.

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...-recovered-bbc
100% regurgitation.
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Old October 7 2013, 06:42 PM   #636
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Well, Thursday as the date is a new one. So only 99% regurgitation. At this point, even if it is all a hoax or misunderstanding, I feel less contemptuous of some of the believers-- these claims have snared a few actual journalists.
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Old October 7 2013, 06:50 PM   #637
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If I'd tried to write a parody of Levine's response to the news, it wouldn't have been better than that. (Check out his full feed for the rest, but quickly, before he decides to delete it all. He's also complaining to the possibly-fake TIEA account, and suggesting that in the past he's been "treading on eggshells" and suppressing his opinions.)

Not that I'm unsympathetic about the underlying complaint; if the BBC does have something to announce, they've chosen the most convoluted way possible, and done it badly to boot.
Totally agreed. It just seems curious to me, that the BBC has done so little to celebrate such an occasion - if they did, of course, find that number of episodes/stories. It doesn't make any sense.

As a relative new fan, I must say, from an objective POV, that there's been a lot of deliberate misinformation. Not sure why, of course, but from the exclusivity of the trailer - which, no matter how you look at it, is completely disingenuous to the UK fans by showing it in the US - to the denying of info about about the recovery of episodes to, well, the freakin' hashtags that somehow pass off as teasers these days, the BBC has nothing everything in its power to piss off established fans.

I'm not offended, probably because as a new fan, I like to believe that I have some perspective. But only the Highlander franchise comes close to the level of contempt that it has to its fans - at least from my limited, fresh POV.
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Old October 7 2013, 07:11 PM   #638
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Just because you've got some fucking perspective, it doesn't mean everyone else has...
Perspective in Who fandom? That'd be a rarity.

I'm always a bit maudlin at this time of year anyway, cos Friday's the anniversary of the death of someone who made a big difference to me.

On a serious note, I take it bridges can't be built ? Sorry if the answers no.
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Old October 7 2013, 07:17 PM   #639
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I've honestly come to see the BBC management as a bunch of baffoons. Maybe it's the Baffoon Broadcasting Corp? What, between their botched PR and their inability to produce Who at a consistent and standard rate, they just don't seem like professionals.

I'm sure there are many hard working people at the BBC, so this is more directed at the management that supposedly run the place.

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Old October 7 2013, 07:37 PM   #640
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They're not fans. They're underestimating DW fans. At least, thats IMO.
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Old October 7 2013, 07:48 PM   #641
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Wow, Levine is off the rails, no wonder they're not telling him anything on the sly. I love Classic Who as much as the next guy, been watching since about 1979 on PBS stations. I have every story, including the missing episode Reconstructions (And watch the entire run about once every year or two), and want all the episodes to either be recovered or animated. But, Sweet Lord, why is this so important to Levine (or anyone, actually) that a delay of a couple days in the announcement is cause for a meltdown? Is Doctor Who (Or [insert other fandom here] really all the stress these people have in their lives and they can afford to use their meltdowns over their chosen Fandom(s)?

This whole situation is way, way down on my list of stress in life
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Old October 7 2013, 08:36 PM   #642
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Ah, Ian Levine. Never disappoints.

And neither does this ongoing rumor. Someday we'll find out something. Definitely. Maybe. We'll see.
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Old October 7 2013, 08:51 PM   #643
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"I'm genuinely a nice person, really." Something no actual nice person has ever had to say.
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Old October 7 2013, 08:55 PM   #644
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Well, if it worked for George Bush Jr., it simply HAS to work for Ian Levine, right?
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Old October 7 2013, 09:21 PM   #645
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More from Ian Levine on Facebook, with comments from longtime fan Jan Vincent-Rudzki and from Tom Spilsbury, who certainly seems to think some kind of announcement has been delayed, or that something substantive has been damaged by fan rumormongering: https://www.facebook.com/ian.levine....al_comments=35.
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