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Old August 10 2013, 12:23 PM   #391
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Rich Johnston, as if eager to prove that he's in way over his head, has posted another article. This one recycles an already-debunked claim, that the message "There will be 6 episodes. More information coming soon" on a BBC episode guide for Dad's Army means that the missing episodes of that series have been found. (Because of course this top secret recovery that has been the subject of NDAs is being plastered all over obscure BBC episode guides.) Of course, it actually means that the episode guide, when complete, will cover all six episodes. Which is why you can see similar messages on pages for other programmes, including those without missing episodes. If Johnston were cultivating fan sources who had even a minimal capacity for skepticism, they could have pointed this out to him.
I'm not following this... There are only three missing episodes of Dad's Army, so where does the six click in?
The episode guide in question is for series two, which has six episodes overall, including the three missing. So the page says "there will be 6 episodes," meaning that the guide will eventually cover all episodes from series two, not just the three surviving episodes that were rerun a couple years back and are the focus of the guide so far. Unless you're Rich Johnston, in which case it means that all three episodes have been found, and the six-episode series will soon be complete.
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Old August 10 2013, 01:46 PM   #392
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It does seem that having dug himself into a hole by believing all the crap about 90 missing episodes being found, he's decided that the best course of action is not to climb out but to keep digging in the vain hope that something, somewhere will eventually turn up.

Which it won't.
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Old August 11 2013, 12:02 AM   #393
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The latest ridiculous notion, which will probably be another Bleeding Cool "smoking gun" by tomorrow, is that the reason there are two pre-order pages for the "Scream of the Shalka" DVD on Amazon UK is that one of them is a placeholder for that secret DVD release of "The Enemy of the World." Because of course all that content is going to be passed by the BBFC and authored to disc in the next five weeks.
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Old August 11 2013, 12:22 AM   #394
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The latest ridiculous notion, which will probably be another Bleeding Cool "smoking gun" by tomorrow, is that the reason there are two pre-order pages for the "Scream of the Shalka" DVD on Amazon UK is that one of them is a placeholder for that secret DVD release of "The Enemy of the World."
You can find multiple listings for loads of DVD pre-orders on Amazon. Always have done.

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Old August 11 2013, 01:12 AM   #395
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Well, quite. And a fake listing like that would probably create legal issues. But if you're Outpost Skaro, or the excitable chap who pointed Bleeding Cool toward the episode guide "evidence", it's all very suspicious. At this point, virtually any piece of Doctor Who news, no matter how tangential, is going to get swept up into the rumors.
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Old August 11 2013, 01:51 AM   #396
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Well, quite. And a fake listing like that would probably create legal issues. But if you're Outpost Skaro, or the excitable chap who pointed Bleeding Cool toward the episode guide "evidence", it's all very suspicious. At this point, virtually any piece of Doctor Who news, no matter how tangential, is going to get swept up into the rumors.
Review copies of 'Terror Of the Zygons' should be available at the end of the month. What happens when it doesn't include the trailer for whatever recovered story there was supposed to be a trailer for on it...
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Old August 11 2013, 02:03 AM   #397
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A few more people will stop believing, someone will say "But the rest of it might still be true!", and within a day or so the rumor will be back in place. It's happened several times with developments that ought to have killed or at least crippled this claim. Some of the "trustworthy sources" are now saying the "negotiations" may run on into 2014, so not even the anniversary coming and going with no announcement will finish it off.
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Old August 11 2013, 01:29 PM   #398
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Well, quite. And a fake listing like that would probably create legal issues. But if you're Outpost Skaro, or the excitable chap who pointed Bleeding Cool toward the episode guide "evidence", it's all very suspicious. At this point, virtually any piece of Doctor Who news, no matter how tangential, is going to get swept up into the rumors.
Review copies of 'Terror Of the Zygons' should be available at the end of the month. What happens when it doesn't include the trailer for whatever recovered story there was supposed to be a trailer for on it...
Obviously the review copies are special and have the trailer removed to not spoil the surprise to general public when the general release is made available.

You seriously think someone isn't going to try and suggest just that?
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Old August 11 2013, 02:29 PM   #399
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Well, quite. And a fake listing like that would probably create legal issues. But if you're Outpost Skaro, or the excitable chap who pointed Bleeding Cool toward the episode guide "evidence", it's all very suspicious. At this point, virtually any piece of Doctor Who news, no matter how tangential, is going to get swept up into the rumors.
Review copies of 'Terror Of the Zygons' should be available at the end of the month. What happens when it doesn't include the trailer for whatever recovered story there was supposed to be a trailer for on it...
Obviously the review copies are special and have the trailer removed to not spoil the surprise to general public when the general release is made available.

You seriously think someone isn't going to try and suggest just that?
Which isn't a totally stupid thing to suggest, as the preview discs for the TV series often have key scenes missing.
But it is stupid in reality, as it misses the point that the review discs for the DVDs are extra copies of the check discs - they have to run off a couple to make sure it's mastered correctly, and it costs peanuts to run off a few dozen more to send out to reviewers. To produce a special trailer-less one for reviews would mean a separate mastering process, and that would cost proper money. So not gonna happen.
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Old August 12 2013, 03:49 AM   #400
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Well, quite. And a fake listing like that would probably create legal issues. But if you're Outpost Skaro, or the excitable chap who pointed Bleeding Cool toward the episode guide "evidence", it's all very suspicious. At this point, virtually any piece of Doctor Who news, no matter how tangential, is going to get swept up into the rumors.
Review copies of 'Terror Of the Zygons' should be available at the end of the month. What happens when it doesn't include the trailer for whatever recovered story there was supposed to be a trailer for on it...
Region 1 review copies have already gone out without a trailer on it.
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Old August 12 2013, 04:11 AM   #401
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[SARCASM]But that's region 1...[/SARCASM]
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Old August 12 2013, 12:05 PM   #402
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Well, quite. And a fake listing like that would probably create legal issues. But if you're Outpost Skaro, or the excitable chap who pointed Bleeding Cool toward the episode guide "evidence", it's all very suspicious. At this point, virtually any piece of Doctor Who news, no matter how tangential, is going to get swept up into the rumors.
Review copies of 'Terror Of the Zygons' should be available at the end of the month. What happens when it doesn't include the trailer for whatever recovered story there was supposed to be a trailer for on it...
The trailer on it is for The Moonbase part-recon. Anybody who wants to know what trailers are on DW released need only look at the BBFC website, where the trailers - like everything else on the discs - have to be classified.
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Old August 12 2013, 07:08 PM   #403
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The latest sign that nothing has been recovered or rediscovered is that Steve Roberts of the Restoration Team noted on another forum that "as it stands we're winding down [the DVD/BD range]. Once 'Moonbase' and 'Underwater Menace' are delivered, that's the end of our involvement."

Of course, the rumor believer has three possible (but implausible) responses to that, all of which have already been tried: 1) he's lying; 2) someone else is restoring all these found episodes (because of course you'd want to move away from the team familiar with the relevant technology and its issues); 3) the rediscovered episodes have already been restored. Someone tried 3) on Roberts at that very forum, earning the reply "Oh FFS..."
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Old August 12 2013, 07:42 PM   #404
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The latest sign that nothing has been recovered or rediscovered is that Steve Roberts of the Restoration Team noted on another forum that "as it stands we're winding down [the DVD/BD range]. Once 'Moonbase' and 'Underwater Menace' are delivered, that's the end of our involvement."

Of course, the rumor believer has three possible (but implausible) responses to that, all of which have already been tried: 1) he's lying; 2) someone else is restoring all these found episodes (because of course you'd want to move away from the team familiar with the relevant technology and its issues); 3) the rediscovered episodes have already been restored. Someone tried 3) on Roberts at that very forum, earning the reply "Oh FFS..."
The very fact that he's out there posting on boards talking about it, proves that in order to keep it secret, they needed to go with another team
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It's amazing how absurd this has gotten. I know I shouldn't be surprised but it's still amusing.
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