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Old July 7 2013, 07:50 PM   #331
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Re: Wiped Episode Discoveries

Shouldn't be repeated as though they were worth anything, sure. But as entertainment? They're more fun than a lot of the episodes they're about sound to have been.
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Old July 7 2013, 09:14 PM   #332
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The possibility of missing episode discoveries was discussed at work a few days ago. One of my coworkers said that there seemed like an awful amount of smoke so there must be something to the rumors.

"No," I said, "it's just as likely that there's a lot of people blowing dust around in a circle, and you blow enough dust it'll look like smoke."
I try to talk to my coworkers about this. But my few fellow geek coworkers are just Trekkies, not Whovians. They can't understand the agonizing "what if"s of having so many lost episodes. Trekkies? Oh, there was a brief period in the 1980s when they couldn't find the original color negatives of the non-"Menagerie" footage from "The Cage." Oh, you poor babies!
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Old July 7 2013, 11:02 PM   #333
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I try to talk to my coworkers about this. But my few fellow geek coworkers are just Trekkies, not Whovians. They can't understand the agonizing "what if"s of having so many lost episodes. Trekkies? Oh, there was a brief period in the 1980s when they couldn't find the original color negatives of the non-"Menagerie" footage from "The Cage." Oh, you poor babies!
damn you, just burst out laughing. thankfully no one was around to see that
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Old July 8 2013, 12:05 AM   #334
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I got some interesting developments on the rumours last week - promising, but nothing definite: nothing nearly certain enough to want to pass on. I suspect that's all we'll get until there's either something definite or... well, if there isn't anything, there's no denial that will end it, is there?
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Old July 8 2013, 12:23 AM   #335
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Shouldn't be repeated as though they were worth anything, sure. But as entertainment? They're more fun than a lot of the episodes they're about sound to have been.
I suppose you've got a point there, especially with the current lack of any news. However, I can see some people taking that in a, where there's smoke, there's fire sense.

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Old July 8 2013, 02:18 AM   #336
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When all is said and done, I hope that whatever has happened (and I still wouldn't rule out there having been an actual rediscovery, even a substantial one, that has complicated denial of the more ridiculous rumors. I also wouldn't rule out it all being vapor), people who heard things that weren't true from "reliable sources" will reevaluate their notions of who's reliable and worth passing on without names attached. Assuming that someone can't have steered you wrong because you happen to like him or because she's a "big name fan" just underestimates the amount of rumor and poor judgment in a fandom that really wants to believe more episodes exist than probably do.
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Old July 8 2013, 10:10 AM   #337
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I got some interesting developments on the rumours last week - promising, but nothing definite: nothing nearly certain enough to want to pass on.
And you are saying this here because....................?

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Old July 8 2013, 02:53 PM   #338
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I got some interesting developments on the rumours last week - promising, but nothing definite: nothing nearly certain enough to want to pass on.
And you are saying this here because....................?

Sorry, I meant that until there's something that isn't a bit of a house of cards I'm going to go back to listening without posting on this, like for the first half o the year!
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Old July 8 2013, 06:36 PM   #339
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I try to talk to my coworkers about this. But my few fellow geek coworkers are just Trekkies, not Whovians. They can't understand the agonizing "what if"s of having so many lost episodes. Trekkies? Oh, there was a brief period in the 1980s when they couldn't find the original color negatives of the non-"Menagerie" footage from "The Cage." Oh, you poor babies!
I think if everything just existed we'd take if for granted. No forum meltdowns over a minor discovery, no cherishing 30 seconds of found footage. That everything exists on audio is amazing.

And I dare say being forced to enjoy some of it on audio, made some of us more receptive to Dr Who as an audio product.
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Old July 9 2013, 03:47 AM   #340
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Also, some of the missing stories probably wouldn't be as well-regarded if they had never gone missing. Don't get me wrong, there are some top-notch stories among the missing, but they aren't all classics and there are a few of them fandom likely wouldn't pay that much attention to if they'd been available all this time.
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Old July 9 2013, 06:12 AM   #341
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Also, some of the missing stories probably wouldn't be as well-regarded if they had never gone missing. Don't get me wrong, there are some top-notch stories among the missing, but they aren't all classics and there are a few of them fandom likely wouldn't pay that much attention to if they'd been available all this time.
Of course not. I think part of the appeal is simply the mystery surrounding the episodes, or the challenge of finding them.
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Old July 9 2013, 02:44 PM   #342
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And equally, there are some stories with a single surviving episode where that episode looks to be the dud, so they'd probably have better reputations if a different episode had survived (Enemy of the World, Space Pirates and, proving the point rather, Underwater Menace on the strength of part three).
And similarly there are some complete stories which would probably be better regarded if only a single episode survived, provided it was the right episode (The Space Museum 1, for instance... creepy and weird, with none of that 'Run along corridors and let's have the revolution right here' stuff that clogs up the other three).
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Old July 9 2013, 11:01 PM   #343
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The Enemy of the World definitely. The story is brilliant, and it's a shame the weakest episode survived.
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Old July 29 2013, 04:20 PM   #344
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Rich Johnston has another article up. It's 40 episodes! No, it's 93! And they'll be showing "The Web of Fear" on BBC 4 in November! And releasing "The Enemy of the World" on DVD! And everybody gets a pony!

Meanwhile, the debate on Gallifrey Base and the Missing Episodes Forum has become ever more ridiculous, complete with faked tweets, speculation about a haul so big even dozens of Doctor Who episodes would seem insignificant, and the claim that calling a rumor "nonsense" hardly qualifies as a denial. There's still no actual evidence of anything, but if you have too much time on your hands, it beats taking up knitting.
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Old July 29 2013, 04:34 PM   #345
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He's obviously just getting off on trolling GB and the like.

(That said, I could easily believe there'll be a screening of The Web Of Fear on BBC4 in November - with the caveat that I mean I could believe they'd show the one single surviving episode as part of a theme night!)
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