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View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 28 11.16%
A 53 21.12%
A- 46 18.33%
B+ 25 9.96%
B 27 10.76%
B- 11 4.38%
C+ 13 5.18%
C 12 4.78%
C- 9 3.59%
D+ 8 3.19%
D 10 3.98%
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Old July 11 2013, 02:36 PM   #1156
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^You presumably don't think it's a good ensemble movie?
I have never seen the movie.
Hopefully no one has spoiled the plot twist for you.
No one spoiled it for me but when I finally did watch it it seemed kind of obvious.
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Old July 11 2013, 11:01 PM   #1157
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What is it with Superman putting his hands around people's necks?
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Old July 11 2013, 11:57 PM   #1158
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Well, Evil Superman is mean.
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Old July 12 2013, 12:02 AM   #1159
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I was never that fond of the junkyard battle...too small-scale. The one person who ought to know that a stack of tires won't hold Superman...is Superman.
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Old July 12 2013, 12:37 AM   #1160
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I was never that fond of the junkyard battle...too small-scale. The one person who ought to know that a stack of tires won't hold Superman...is Superman.
The junkyard battle is great and had a ton of meaning. It represented what was going on in Superman's head after being affected by the artificial Kryptonite. Everything after the two of them separate to the very end was actually taking place inside his head, both personalities were fighting to see who would be the one in control.

Evil Superman was always the stronger fighter in the battle, but Clark was always in it and the point was that he was getting stronger the longer it went on. Yeah, the tire thing was a little lame but it was Clark finally trying to fight back. Clark always had his powers, it was the only reason he wasn't dead after every punch, but it took time for him to eventually unleash it. Also awesome acting from Reeve who was playing both Evil Superman and Clark!

If there were more scenes like the junkyard battle, than Superman III could have been much better.

The battles in Superman II were very good, but they were just physical battles, and they were brought down a bit by the flying effects.
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Old July 12 2013, 12:53 AM   #1161
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Superman should have more imagination then...he could have been battling himself across the globe....
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Old July 12 2013, 01:01 AM   #1162
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Superman should have more imagination then...he could have been battling himself across the globe....
I imagine the budget had something to do with that. The computer battle later in the movie really was a huge let down after we got the mirror match.

We did get sort of a flying around the Earth fight in Superman IV between Superman and Nuclear Man, but no one gives a crap about that fight due to how lame it was.
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Old July 12 2013, 01:03 AM   #1163
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Despite the film's obvious flaws, I actually enjoy the smaller-scale drama in Supes III - the junkyard battle, the chemical plant ... made his efforts seem more ... personal.
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Old July 12 2013, 01:35 AM   #1164
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Dammit... you people are making me want to watch Superman III. What are you bringing me to?!
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Old July 12 2013, 01:52 AM   #1165
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Don't forget the robot lady. That was awesome!

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Old July 12 2013, 02:11 AM   #1166
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Despite the film's obvious flaws, I actually enjoy the smaller-scale drama in Supes III - the junkyard battle, the chemical plant ... made his efforts seem more ... personal.
It is more personal. When you can see the actor doing the scene and see his face, his emotions, and his body going through the motions as opposed to CGI figures flying past so fast you can barely discern them, you connect with the character in a more complete manner, IMHO. Plus, Reeve was a skilled actor so it was easy to connect with the character's inner turmoil during that scene.
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Old July 12 2013, 02:58 AM   #1167
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CGI wouldn't have been an issue in 1983...and I don't consider Chris Reeve throwing tires at himself to be the pinnacle of his acting career.
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Old July 12 2013, 03:13 AM   #1168
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The one person who ought to know that a stack of tires won't hold Superman...is Superman.
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I don't consider Chris Reeve throwing tires at himself to be the pinnacle of his acting career.
Y'know, this criticism is getting a bit ... tired.

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Old July 12 2013, 03:42 AM   #1169
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You've got me...Superman III was robbed at the Oscars...robbed!
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Old July 12 2013, 03:42 AM   #1170
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The X-Men didn't catch on until they were revived in the eighties with Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, etc.
The All New, All Different X-Men premiered in the 70's, not the 80's.

Just sayin...
You know, I knew I should have looked that up . . .

And speaking of "Singer can't do teams," one of things I really admire about X2 is the way the film manages to handle multiple characters and subplots. A lot of superhero movies fall apart the minute they tackle more than one villain, but X2 does a nice job of weaving a whole mob of mutants into the story in an efficient and coherent manner. Heck,even Pyro gets a story arc. And most of the characters get a nice little moment or grace note of their own.

Sure, inevitably, some characters get slighted (sorry, Cyke), and, of course, Wolverine is going to get more screen time than Iceman or whomever, but overall it's an impressive job of traffic directing!
Greg is still right though. The X-men didn't really "catch on" till after the Claremont-Byrne era.
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