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View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 28 11.16%
A 53 21.12%
A- 46 18.33%
B+ 25 9.96%
B 27 10.76%
B- 11 4.38%
C+ 13 5.18%
C 12 4.78%
C- 9 3.59%
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Old December 7 2013, 04:01 AM   #1501
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My gut reaction is to say go Hobbit, but the CGI in Elysium was incredibly realistic. It truly looked like those locations existed in real life with depth and weight.
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Old December 7 2013, 11:41 AM   #1502
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I'm not surprised Man of Steel didn't get nominated. It didn't look that great, and all the elements in it have been done before. In fact, Man of Steel made me think that today's summer blockbusters are written by ILM. "We have building collapse simulations from Transformers. Let's collapse buildings in STD and Man of Steel. We have water simulations from Battleship, let's have a flying aircraft carrier in Avengers and the Enterprise rising out of the waters in STD." Etc...

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Gravity will get it, though. It'll be the little Academy darling.
Well deserved. After having read about the production process, I also hope for Best Director and Best (Supporting) Actor. Because Gravity is an entirely different beast of filmmaking. And the end result is marvellous.
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Old December 14 2013, 05:59 PM   #1503
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In other news, Man of Steel nabs the #4 spot of The AV Club's Worst Movies of the Year list, beating A Haunted House and Planes. Justice is served!
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Old December 14 2013, 06:25 PM   #1504
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By whose lights?
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Old December 14 2013, 06:50 PM   #1505
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In other news, Man of Steel nabs the #4 spot of The AV Club's Worst Movies of the Year list, beating A Haunted House and Planes. Justice is served!
That's just dumb. Yes, Man of Steel sucked, but it was a relative level of suck. Great acting, competent script, fantastic special effects, and exciting action scenes. Man of Steel nailed the basics and no film that does that should end up on a worst film of the year list. Worst film of the year that grossed over $100 million domestic? Maybe.
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Old December 14 2013, 06:54 PM   #1506
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By whose lights?
Agreed. MoS might not have been the greatest thing I ever saw, but it certainly didn't suck. I thought it was fine.
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Old December 14 2013, 07:00 PM   #1507
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Yes, Man of Steel sucked, but it was a relative level of suck.
But it was also a high-profile level of suck, so people will want to include it on their lists.
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Old December 14 2013, 07:18 PM   #1508
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The AV Club gave MOS a C+ in their review, but year-worst lists are a time for score-settling and entertaining writing, not an objective and fair collection of the lowest grades or most wanting production value assessments.
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Old December 14 2013, 09:51 PM   #1509
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Eh, I thought Man of Steel was okay but I wasn't wowed by it. I felt a little numb after the last 45 minutes of seemingly non-stop action. I think I would have liked it more if it had more of an emphasis on story/character as the trailers sort of suggested.
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Old December 15 2013, 08:00 PM   #1510
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I can understand if MOS just didn't grab you or interest you for whatever reason, but by no means does it deserve to be on any "Worst Movie of the Year" list. Not when there were movies like RIPD, After Earth, Scary Movie 5 and Grown ups 2.
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Old December 15 2013, 10:19 PM   #1511
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Just as an FYI, the Blu-ray is $9.99 at Best Buy right now:

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Old December 15 2013, 11:13 PM   #1512
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I can understand if MOS just didn't grab you or interest you for whatever reason, but by no means does it deserve to be on any "Worst Movie of the Year" list. Not when there were movies like RIPD, After Earth, Scary Movie 5 and Grown ups 2.
"Worst Movie of the Year" lists are always dumb, because chances are the actual worst movies of the year haven't even been seen by anyone. The movies that end up on those lists are usually high-profile disappointments, which is why "Most Disappointing Movie of the Year" would probably be a better title.

For me, the most disappointing movie of the year was Star Trek Into Darkness, but I would never argue that it's actually the year's worst. The same goes for Man of Steel. Both movies are technically impressive and very competently made in many ways, but just happened to treat their source material in a way that upset a lot of fans (myself included).
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Old December 15 2013, 11:20 PM   #1513
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Disappointment requires expectation. I've seen many films this year without knowing what to expect, and they were just bad.
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Old December 16 2013, 06:40 PM   #1514
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For me, the most disappointing movie of the year was Star Trek Into Darkness, but I would never argue that it's actually the year's worst. The same goes for Man of Steel. Both movies are technically impressive and very competently made in many ways, but just happened to treat their source material in a way that upset a lot of fans (myself included).
Agreed about STID being most disappointing. As a huge fan of the first film and the reboot idea, I was really looking forward to seeing the followup... but the final product was so generic and derivative that it just killed my interest in the new universe completely.

And I can understand fans being similarly disappointed with MOS, but for me edgier real-world approach was exactly what I had been wanting to see from a Superman movie for years, so I had no problem with it at all.
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Old December 16 2013, 06:54 PM   #1515
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Yeah, I was going to wonder if the AV's list really wasn't a list of the Worst Movies of the Year [That Anyone Actually Gave a Sh*t About]... but I've only ever heard of three of the other candidates.

I like the AV Clubs' commenters, though. A rare example of an article like this online where the comments are actually entertaining and not an endless parade of butthurt and counter-butthurt and racist / misogynistic slurs and non-sequiturs complaining about liberals-and-Obama. One guy puts the "disappointment" angle that AvBaur mentions nicely:

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I knew Terminator Salavation was gonna suck, but my brother wanted to go see it. And then it sucked, no surprise. Whereas I was excited for The Dark Knight Rises based on previous movies, and then I hated it. Felt like I had paid $12 bucks and driven an hour (for IMAX, because Dark Knight in IMAX was amazing) to get bludgeoned by the Nolans' script and the incessant score.

Even with my hate of TDKR I can see that objectively it is a much better movie than Terminator Salvation, but TDKR was a more painful viewing experience for me. If you go to McDonald's and your burger sucks, then hey, its McD's, what do you expect? But if you order a steak at a nice restaurant and somebody brings you a really good McDonalds burger, you're gonna be pissed.
Excellently captures why I'm more troubled by the AbramsTrek films -- though they didn't suck for me as much as TDKR sucked for this guy -- than I would have been if they'd simply (with a few tweaks) been sold as Star Wars or Buck Rogers films. By contrast I liked MOS just fine... but then I had no particular expectations of it beyond that it deliver some good superhero beatdown action.
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