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View Poll Results: Which is bigger?
USS Enterprise-E 10 29.41%
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Old June 15 2013, 11:19 PM   #31
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I always thought the purpose of the Galaxy class was so that it could perform every type of mission, with a sizeable crew covering all expertises. The ship included more comfort and space to accommodate families of personnel so it could undertake longer missions.

I mean if your Stafleet's best tachyon emission guy are you going to stay in a rent free pad overlooking the golden gate bridge with your family, or suck bad air on a starship for months on end sharing a bunk bed, waiting for your go on the holodeck.
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Old June 15 2013, 11:25 PM   #32
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I always thought the purpose of the Galaxy class was so that it could perform every type of mission, with a sizeable crew covering all expertises. The ship included more comfort and space to accommodate families of personnel so it could undertake longer missions.
I agree. And I think one of biggest underrated technological achievements in Trek is that onboard space isn't considered a premium aboard a starship and that Starfleet can afford to have very comfortable living conditions for its crews.
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Old June 15 2013, 11:30 PM   #33
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I agree. And I think one of biggest underrated technological achievements in Trek is that onboard space isn't considered a premium aboard a starship and that Starfleet can afford to have very comfortable living conditions for its crews.
Unless you happen to be serving on the Defiant.

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Old June 15 2013, 11:39 PM   #34
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I agree. And I think one of biggest underrated technological achievements in Trek is that onboard space isn't considered a premium aboard a starship and that Starfleet can afford to have very comfortable living conditions for its crews.
Unless you happen to be serving on the Defiant.
True, very true.

Depending on what scale of the ship you adhere to--it ranges somewhere between 120-170 meters in length--it seems that the Defiant has the same basic systems as a larger starship, but crammed into a smaller package. The thing that was sacrificed the most was the size of personal living quarters & the sickbay, and a lack of some other crew amenities.

But an argument perhaps could be made that Defiant-class ships were always geared for short-term missions, so their crews were never meant to be on deployment for long.
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Old June 15 2013, 11:46 PM   #35
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Depending on what scale of the ship you adhere to--it ranges somewhere between 120-170 meters in length--it seems that the Defiant has the same basic systems as a larger starship, but crammed into a smaller package. The thing that was sacrificed the most was the size of personal living quarters & the sickbay, and a lack of some other crew amenities.

But an argument perhaps could be made that Defiant-class ships were always geared for short-term missions, so their crews were never meant to be on deployment for long.
And generally speaking, that's exactly how the ship was used. Even the exploratory missions to the Gamma Quadrant rarely lasted longer than a week or two. There simply wasn't enough space with which to store supplies and equipment, though Defiant's smaller crew compliment usually made stocking up on a huge number of supplies unnecessary.

I do wonder how the Valiant managed to last eight months behind enemy lines given that it's the same type of ship. Replicators or no, they'd still need the same basic supplies that naval ships of today would have (packaged food, water, medicines, clothing, etc.).

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Old June 16 2013, 12:10 AM   #36
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You mean a replicator and a power supply for it?
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Old June 16 2013, 12:11 AM   #37
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I do wonder how the Valiant managed to last eight months behind enemy lines given that it's the same type of ship. Replicators or no, they'd still need the same basic supplies that naval ships of today would have (packaged food, water, medicines, clothing, etc.).
In addition to perhaps some rationing, they'd probably would have to quietly stop by a M-class world or moon to stock up on bulk matter for the replicator, IMO.
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Old June 16 2013, 12:12 AM   #38
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You mean a replicator and a power supply for it?
Normally yes, but what if it fails?

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Old June 16 2013, 02:09 AM   #39
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Break out the emergency rations, then replace them once you fix it. Heck, as hard as O'brien was on field rations you know he had a storage room or two full of them alone.
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Old June 16 2013, 01:07 PM   #40
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You mean a replicator and a power supply for it?
Normally yes, but what if it fails?

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Cannibalism. What do you think they did with the dead senior officers?
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Old June 16 2013, 01:35 PM   #41
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I think the E-E has less internal volume than E-C
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Old June 16 2013, 01:45 PM   #42
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You mean a replicator and a power supply for it?
Normally yes, but what if it fails?

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Cannibalism. What do you think they did with the dead senior officers?
But it's not cannibalism if you eat another race is it?
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Old June 16 2013, 03:06 PM   #43
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The E has to be bigger just because of the bottomless pit... Thanks Nemesis!
The doors on the deck the fire fight took place all say "09", the crawl way was just off of that, the Reman fell from Deck 9 down a service shaft to the 20's numbered decks.
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Old June 16 2013, 05:14 PM   #44
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The bottomless pit was just a clever symbolism to all the plot holes in the movie.
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Old June 16 2013, 05:33 PM   #45
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The bottomless pit was just a clever symbolism to all the plot holes in the movie.
And of the abyss into which Trek has fallen.

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