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Old June 11 2013, 03:46 AM   #46
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Multiplayer is going behind a paywall. Can't win 'em all, I guess.
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Old June 11 2013, 03:59 AM   #47
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Wow, Sony makes one want to buy their console because it looks..fun..not ridiculously complicated.

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Multiplayer is going behind a paywall. Can't win 'em all, I guess.
True, but it's still cheaper then Xbox live.

...and the console is 100 bucks cheaper, blow out win here
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Old June 11 2013, 04:03 AM   #48
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$399 for the PS4. Another plus for Sony over Microsoft.
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Old June 11 2013, 04:07 AM   #49
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I'm buying a PS4. I already have Plus, which has given me so much already, so I don't care about paying to play online.

Sony has no games, but they just killed it.
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Old June 11 2013, 04:09 AM   #50
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No DRM and it supports used and loaned games! The Xbone is looking kind of flaccid from here!!
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Old June 11 2013, 04:09 AM   #51
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Oh, man, wow. Sony couldn't have done that better. It started off slow, but Sony knew when to drop their bombshells and when to focus on their games. I think this sums up my opinion pretty well:

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Old June 11 2013, 04:11 AM   #52
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I was watching a rant video today by AlphaOmegaSin. He mentioned that if someone buys the XBOX 1, they are supporting the price gouging and corporate takeover of gamers' rights that has been happening in some sectors in the industry lately. Choosing one system over the other is voting for the future of the industry. I am choosing the PS4 and Sony, which today went a different direction from Microsoft.
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Old June 11 2013, 04:22 AM   #53
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Multiplayer is going behind a paywall. Can't win 'em all, I guess.
True, but it's still cheaper then Xbox live.
Don't get me wrong, Sony killed MS tonight. With a significantly cheaper console, the announcement of no new DRM, and a clear focus on games, Sony won a huge victory. If I decide to buy a next-gen console, it will be a PS4, it's not even a competition at this point. But it would have been nice if multiplayer remained free, and the news kinda dampens the excitement a little. At least they're not going to be complete assholes like MS and charge for 3rd-party services like Netflix.

That press conference was a little slow to start, but it had a really strong finish. If MS don't backtrack on some of their DRM and find a way to subsidise the console to undercut the price of the PS4, I don't see how the XBO can win next gen. But maybe gamers really are stupid and those few MS exclusives will be enough to win the bro-gamers over. Gods, I hope not.
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Old June 11 2013, 04:23 AM   #54
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Official PlayStation 4 Used Games Instructional Video:

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Old June 11 2013, 04:25 AM   #55
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Nice to see Sony rubbing it in. Long may they continue.
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God damn.
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Old June 11 2013, 04:27 AM   #57
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So what games on the PS4 does everyone here actually want?
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Old June 11 2013, 04:31 AM   #58
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I think Sony just obliterated Microsoft with this press conference. $399, no need for a persistent online connection, no restrictions on used games. Microsoft is looking really bad right now, IMO. I was already leaning towards the PS4 anyway, but after that press conference I'm most definitely getting a PS4.

The paid multiplayer thing is kinda disappointing, but understandable. I used to pay to play multiplayer on Xbox, so I'm used to it, and I think it's a small price to pay for all the other benefits the PS4 appears to be offering.
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Old June 11 2013, 04:38 AM   #59
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But maybe gamers really are stupid and those few MS exclusives will be enough to win the bro-gamers over. Gods, I hope not.
Microsoft has Quantum Break, while Sony has *counts on fingers* no exclusives that I care about.

The Xbox One doesn't take away anything I care about (I don't sell games), and it makes sharing games with my family more convenient. The PS4 has slightly better tech specs, and would let me buy used games... but I don't like the DualShock controllers.

I recognize why many people think that the Xbox One is a bad idea. But right now Sony doesn't have a compelling enough reason for me to pick them and lose out on Remedy's next game.
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Old June 11 2013, 04:40 AM   #60
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MS showed more games that I'm interested in, but Sony killed it with no check-ins and supporting used games. Having to pay for online is disappointing, but I am already a Ps+ subscriber. The $399 price point is the cherry on top.

No idea if I will get a next gen system yet, but if I do it will definitely be a PS4. I loved the original Xbox and the 360, but MS has lost it.
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