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Old November 18 2013, 03:51 AM   #31
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Re: J.J. Abrams Almost Human

The show has lots of potential. Very evocative of Robocop and Bladerunner in production style.

Sadly, like most niche genre shows, it will most likely get canceled. I will enjoy it while I can.
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Old November 18 2013, 04:21 AM   #32
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It was ok. If I remember to watch it, I'll watch it. If I don't, I won't. I'm not entirely sure the point of an emotional robot. It makes me wonder what the point really is.
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Old November 18 2013, 05:09 AM   #33
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I liked what we've seen so far. Looks like a well developed world in concept and the execution was good. I too was getting evocations of Science Fiction classics like Alien/s, Blade Runner, etc.

I've set the tivo to grab the season.


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Ten to one, Urban's character is an android himself and doesn't know it.

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Might have been Gilgamesh and Enkidu for that one, though the writer might have cribbed someone, I suppose.
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And now I'm picturing a CSI style investigation scene with all the characters describing everything with Darmok style metaphors. "Temba, his arms closed, his eyes covered." "Zinda, his face black, his eyes red."
I'd watch it.

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Not great but not bad. I'm not sold on Michael Ealy or his rapport with Urban, but yeah, Minka Kelly is gorgeous, and so is Mekia Cox. (I'm also not sold on Urban's attempt at an American accent. I wish they'd just let his character be a New Zealand native.)
It's near the same voice as his McCoy, I'm thinking they wanted to keep that voice as the "average viewer" will most likely know him from the two new trek movies.

I like the premise of a world made more dangerous by the rapid emergence of powerful new technologies; it reminds me of my own Only Superhuman. Although it looks like it's going to be more of a violent, shoot-em-up cop show than I'd prefer. And I am so sick of scenes of protagonists beating up prisoners to interrogate them. Torture is not an effective means of interrogation, and I wish TV and movies would get that through their heads.
That was sort of the point. His enhanced interrogation was ineffective, and clearly demonstrated to be more about his anger and wanting revenge than wanting any info. That is why his partner stepped in, because he could see it was about hurting the guy and not getting answers.

I like the ethnic diversity in the casting, and the suggestions of cultural diversity in the setting. I hope the show keeps it up. The futurism is interesting so far, but it has some credibility issues. For instance, I have a very hard time believing that combat-model androids wouldn't be hardened against EMP, or whatever kind of signal was used to shut them down. The explanation about Dorian being on a different "frequency" made it even more implausible; presumably you'd build combat androids to have individual operating "frequencies" so that a signal couldn't shut them all down simultaneously.
I think it was to show that the criminals are way ahead of the cops/government, who are blinded by arrogance and typical government bureaucracy. The new partner synthetic was an older and more well built model, with increased shielding, more features, and higher cost.


I noted that the pilot was credited solely to J.H. Wyman, both as scriptwriter and creator. Usually Abrams co-creates Bad Robot shows and co-writes and directs the pilots -- or at least he used to -- but here his only credit seems to be executive producer. I guess he's so busy with movies now that he's not as involved with BR's TV productions.
I think between Trek and Wars, he's way to busy to be involved in the day to day of any of bad robots tv productions.
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Old November 18 2013, 05:21 AM   #34
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Sadly, like most niche genre shows, it will most likely get canceled. I will enjoy it while I can.
Actually, contrary to popular belief, it has a better chance on FOX than it would have on another broadcast network. Last year, NBC, ABC, and The CW cancelled quite a few new genre shows within the first 3-4 weeks, but FOX hasn't cancelled a genre show with episodes unaired since Tru Calling over eight and a half years ago. Odds are, the show will at least get to complete its initial season order.


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It's near the same voice as his McCoy, I'm thinking they wanted to keep that voice as the "average viewer" will most likely know him from the two new trek movies.
Not really. McCoy is Urban doing a DeForest Kelley impression (including a Southern accent), while this is Urban trying to do a neutral US accent. It's just that he's not really that good at accents so his New Zealand drawl leaks through and makes them sound similar. If anything, his voice for Kennex sounds pretty close to his Judge Dredd voice to me.


That was sort of the point. His enhanced interrogation was ineffective, and clearly demonstrated to be more about his anger and wanting revenge than wanting any info. That is why his partner stepped in, because he could see it was about hurting the guy and not getting answers.
Maybe. I hope so. But it gives a really bad first impression of Kennex and does not endear me to him.


I think it was to show that the criminals are way ahead of the cops/government, who are blinded by arrogance and typical government bureaucracy. The new partner synthetic was an older and more well built model, with increased shielding, more features, and higher cost.
Maybe. It still felt too easy and contrived. I mean, the premise of this show is predicated on the idea that the MX androids (or whatever they called them) are actually effective enough that partnering with them was made mandatory. But so far they seem pretty useless. That doesn't help to sell me on the premise.


I noted that the pilot was credited solely to J.H. Wyman, both as scriptwriter and creator. Usually Abrams co-creates Bad Robot shows and co-writes and directs the pilots -- or at least he used to -- but here his only credit seems to be executive producer. I guess he's so busy with movies now that he's not as involved with BR's TV productions.
I think between Trek and Wars, he's way to busy to be involved in the day to day of any of bad robots tv productions.
Probably. But I was thinking of the person above who said they had "qualms about JJ." I thought it was worth pointing out that this is really Wyman's show more than Abrams's.
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Old November 18 2013, 05:57 AM   #35
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Sadly, like most niche genre shows, it will most likely get canceled. I will enjoy it while I can.
Actually, contrary to popular belief, it has a better chance on FOX than it would have on another broadcast network. Last year, NBC, ABC, and The CW cancelled quite a few new genre shows within the first 3-4 weeks, but FOX hasn't cancelled a genre show with episodes unaired since Tru Calling over eight and a half years ago. Odds are, the show will at least get to complete its initial season order.
Is it on FOX? I hadn't noticed. I was making a comment on the survival rate of genre shows in general. Which, as you pointed out, is not that good. I also did not comment on whether it would get canned with unaired episodes.

To be honest, these days I DVR everything so rarely notice what network a show is on.
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Old November 18 2013, 06:49 AM   #36
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i really enjoyed the first ep. felt like shades of Blade Runner combined with Robocop and Alien Nation.
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Old November 18 2013, 08:06 AM   #37
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Christopher[/QUOTE wrote:
I noted that the pilot was credited solely to J.H. Wyman, both as scriptwriter and creator. Usually Abrams co-creates Bad Robot shows and co-writes and directs the pilots -- or at least he used to -- but here his only credit seems to be executive producer. I guess he's so busy with movies now that he's not as involved with BR's TV productions.
Nowadays he just slaps his name on things and basically walks awe

[QUOTE=Mr. Laser Beam;8903293]Ten to one, Urban's character is an android himself and doesn't know it.


Or gets replaced in the season finale but needs to escape
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Old November 18 2013, 09:33 AM   #38
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I noted that the pilot was credited solely to J.H. Wyman, both as scriptwriter and creator. Usually Abrams co-creates Bad Robot shows and co-writes and directs the pilots -- or at least he used to -- but here his only credit seems to be executive producer. I guess he's so busy with movies now that he's not as involved with BR's TV productions.
Nowadays he just slaps his name on things and basically walks awe
Yeah, the title of this thread is therefore a misnomer too.

This is a J.H. Wyman show, not a J.J. Abrams show.

Abrams merely owns the studio which produces Almost Human. He provides the money, but not any creative input.
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Old November 18 2013, 02:59 PM   #39
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Abrams merely owns the studio which produces Almost Human. He provides the money, but not any creative input.
What are you basing that on? Usually, as the head of the production company, he (or the equivalent person at another production company, like Spielberg or Bruckheimer) does have creative oversight over its projects and the various showrunners answer to him. I'm sure he has some input, it's just not particularly hands-on. It would probably be the sort of thing where the showrunners like Wyman meet or talk on the phone with him regularly and say "We're doing this and this and that on the show" and Abrams thinks about it and says "Okay, that sounds cool, but what about adding this to it" or "Hmm, I'm not sure that'll work, how about going this way instead" or the like.
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Old November 18 2013, 03:49 PM   #40
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I noted that the pilot was credited solely to J.H. Wyman, both as scriptwriter and creator. Usually Abrams co-creates Bad Robot shows and co-writes and directs the pilots -- or at least he used to -- but here his only credit seems to be executive producer. I guess he's so busy with movies now that he's not as involved with BR's TV productions.
The same thing happened with Person of Interest, so it's not the first time.

(In addition to co-writing and directing the pilot, J.J. also usually writes the main title theme, too.)
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Old November 18 2013, 05:31 PM   #41
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It is the second televison series that features a android as a cop. The first one was Future Cop. Whice was a short live series, that only eight episodes were made.

Will Almost Human be a hit show? Only four television series that has a android as a main character in it, had stay on for four or more season.

They are.
Small Wonder: 4 seasons
Star Trek The Next Generation: 7 seasons
Andromeda: 5 seasons
New Battlestar Galactica: Think it was 5 seasons?

Forgot one

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Old November 18 2013, 05:53 PM   #42
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I wonder if this show will evolve with the Synthetics revolting?

Chances are Dorian will have to choose sides one day.
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I wonder if this show will evolve with the Synthetics revolting?

Chances are Dorian will have to choose sides one day.
I hope not. That's been done already.
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Old November 18 2013, 08:03 PM   #44
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I liked it a lot. Looking forward to seeing how it develops.
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Old November 18 2013, 08:50 PM   #45
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It certainly looked cool, and the partnership between Urban and Ealy might have potential.... but the story itself just never really grabbed me. It just felt like a generic mish-mash of other scifi movies and shows.
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