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Old July 6 2013, 03:53 AM   #106
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Re: Was I the only one who disliked Far Beyond the Stars?

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I wished they would have ended the series as sisko being a writer and everything being inside his head. The series finale was bad.
You realize that would have invalidated a lot of what happened in the Trek universe, don't you?

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Old July 6 2013, 04:30 AM   #107
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Re: Was I the only one who disliked Far Beyond the Stars?

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I wished they would have ended the series as sisko being a writer and everything being inside his head. The series finale was bad.
You realize that would have invalidated a lot of what happened in the Trek universe, don't you?

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That would've been up there with TATV bad.
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Old July 6 2013, 04:34 AM   #108
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That would've been up there with TATV bad.
It would have been worse than that.

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Old July 6 2013, 05:12 AM   #109
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Re: Was I the only one who disliked Far Beyond the Stars?

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I wished they would have ended the series as sisko being a writer and everything being inside his head. The series finale was bad.
You realize that would have invalidated a lot of what happened in the Trek universe, don't you?

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That would've been up there with TATV bad.
Yes, up there and beyond.
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Old July 6 2013, 11:51 PM   #110
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I heard that the writers thought of doing that, but knew people would get upset about it. I just thought most of the ending was bad especially what they did to dukat.
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Old July 7 2013, 12:51 AM   #111
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I heard that the writers thought of doing that, but knew people would get upset about it. I just thought most of the ending was bad especially what they did to dukat.
Well, Dukat's character jumped the shark long before the series finale happened.

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Old July 9 2013, 02:23 PM   #112
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You realize that would have invalidated a lot of what happened in the Trek universe, don't you?

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All of startrek is just a illusion by the Talosians to keep Pike and his decendants in line on Talos anyway.
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Old July 9 2013, 07:21 PM   #113
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All of startrek is just a illusion by the Talosians to keep Pike and his decendants in line on Talos anyway.
Wouldn't that make his simulated life after his accident an illusion within the illusion?

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Old July 9 2013, 08:23 PM   #114
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All of startrek is just a illusion by the Talosians to keep Pike and his decendants in line on Talos anyway.
Wouldn't that make his simulated life after his accident an illusion within the illusion?

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If it keeps him docile and compliant.

To be honnest its a joke but if you think about it.....

Pike seemed pretty unwilling to live a life of fantasy....so give him the illusion of freedom with bad events as well as good. The accident could all have been a illusion to make him submit to there will

All of startrek could just be illusions of his descendants....
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Old July 18 2013, 12:15 AM   #115
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Everyone seems to rave over it.

But

I found the whole thing well boring.......


I watch startrek for the science fictions. The whole them of future and space ect

I don't watch startrek to sit and watch a 1950's drama about racism.

Thge only good thing about the whole thing was the acting.
That's one of my favorite DS9 episodes! Besides the plot being good, it was fun seeing the cast without makeup and playing "normal" (non-sci-fi) roles. And who knew Worf could be such a charmer... and smiling!

But not everyone has the same likes and dislikes. It's our differences that make life interesting. I'm sure there are things you like that I don't.
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Old August 16 2013, 12:38 AM   #116
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Re: Was I the only one who disliked Far Beyond the Stars?

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Everyone seems to rave over it.

But

I found the whole thing well boring.......


I watch startrek for the science fictions. The whole them of future and space ect

I don't watch startrek to sit and watch a 1950's drama about racism.

Thge only good thing about the whole thing was the acting.

By the way I find most holodeck episodes boring as hell too.
The thing that still blows me away about this episode is that it takes the sci-fi concept and turns it backwards. We know Ben Sisko and the crew as they are on the show. This episode takes the sci-fi and makes it real life and we see the charactors and story the other way around!

Remember what Ben's dad said;

"You are the dream and the dreamer. Keep the faith brother Benny."

Damn! That's a good god damn episode!
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Old August 16 2013, 02:23 AM   #117
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I'd really say a better example of that is Sisko going out of his way to not like Vic's because it's set in the 50's even though the bad stuff has been programed out.
Well, you can attribute that to the lingering memories of mistreatment he had in FBTS.

Besides that, there's no reason he couldn't be interested in the history of African people. Just because it's 300 years in the future in a relatively utopian setting doesn't mean people will forget about their heritage. Especially considering he is from New Orleans which is a focal point of black culture.
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Old August 16 2013, 04:35 AM   #118
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Re: Was I the only one who disliked Far Beyond the Stars?

^To put this episode (and 'Badda-Bing, Badda-Boom') in perspective, here's an article about Deep Space Nine and Captain Sisko: O Captain, My Captain: A Look Back At Deep Space Nine’s Ben Sisko
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Old August 22 2013, 10:48 PM   #119
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I rewatched it and I think it has a powerful message especially since we have a African American president.
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Old August 24 2013, 07:43 PM   #120
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Re: Was I the only one who disliked Far Beyond the Stars?

For someone outside USA's historical injustices and current guilt trips over them, 'Far beyond the stars' doesn't have even half the punch it is obviously intended to have.

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I wished they would have ended the series as sisko being a writer and everything being inside his head. The series finale was bad.
You realize that would have invalidated a lot of what happened in the Trek universe, don't you?

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Data girl's interpretation is actually rather probable, given the relevant DS9's episodes.
It wouldn't even be the first series to do the 'it's all in the head of a not-quite-sane person' - Buffy the vampire slayer was there first.
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