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View Poll Results: Which ship would win in a battle?
USS Voyager 5 8.47%
USS Defiant 16 27.12%
USS Enterprise-E 38 64.41%
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Old June 10 2013, 03:41 PM   #16
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Being larger does not make the ship more suited for battle. I might go with Defiant just based on maneuverability and the fact that it has a cloaking device.
Voyager with future armor, okay, but Voyager when it was built loses easily to Defiant.
True considering the Defiant pwned the Lakota. However, IIR the Defiant class was basically the testing ground for everything that got put in the Sovereign's. Enterprise E- is everything the Defiant is but bigger, faster, better shielded, more powerful and has a bigger arsenal of weapons available. Remember, E-E was also constructed to be a Borg fighter.

With Starfleet having possession of the Romulan cloak aboard the Defiant, I am sure it has been dissected enough where starfleet captains have been briefed on how to detect cloaked ships using Romulan cloaks, and how to track them. Heck, even Geordi figured out how in TNG.

Also, Defiant may be more maneuverable, but the defiant is only able to fire forward, whereas the Sovereigns have a 360 firing arc for the phaser arrays. So the maneuverability is not as much an advantage against Enterprise E, as it would have been against the Lakota, or maybe even a galaxy class ship.

Defiant isn't winning this one against Enterprise E.
Whilst I don't think we ever say the Defiant fire aft, it doesn't mean it can't. We after all didn't see the Galaxy Class fire aft Phasers that often.
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Old June 11 2013, 03:59 AM   #17
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Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant

Even if Defiant did have the capability of firing at other angles (IE phasers or torpedoes), it still doesn't change the fact that E-E is everything Defiant is, just more of it. Bigger hull able to handle more damage, more power output, more phaser arrays and torpedo bays, large crew to handle battle damage, more of just basically everything, less cloak, which isn't necessarily an advantage, if E-E is able to track it, anyway.

That doesn't mean Defiant won't get its licks in, and it would be an easy win for E-E, just that the odds are with the Enterprise-E.

Now, if we were talking Enterprise-D, it just might be a different story and go in Defiant's favor (Caveat: Except maybe "All Good Things..." Enterprise D, which also has a cloak and has been upgraded to basically a dreadnaught).

That said, I think the real contest might be Voyager VS Defiant. That might be closer, but my money would be on Defiant...not because I like Voyager less (I think Voyager is a better looking ship, personally), but because Voyager is more a multi-role explorer ship, whereas Defiant is all warrior.
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Old June 11 2013, 10:32 PM   #18
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Voyager wins hands down because her Captain wouldn't allow anything less!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vhU79cuB5s

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Old June 12 2013, 04:50 PM   #19
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Re: USS Voyager vs USS Defiant

Going by the options, I would sort them thusly:
- Enterprise-E
- Defiant
- Voyager

So even if the E-E wasn't on that list, the Defiant would always win against Voyager.
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Old June 17 2013, 02:26 AM   #20
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defiant,it is a warship,built to fight.
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Old June 17 2013, 02:33 AM   #21
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Why are Starfleet vessels firing on each other?

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Old June 17 2013, 05:15 AM   #22
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To find out who would win the battle, of course.
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Old June 17 2013, 07:00 AM   #23
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The defiant would win, right? It could always ram the other ships if they were still standing.
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Old June 20 2013, 03:15 AM   #24
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The Defiant wins unless E uses the Picard maneuver.
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Old August 14 2013, 03:13 AM   #25
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defiant,it is a warship,built to fight.
That doesn't always mean it is the most powerful, though.
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Old August 14 2013, 02:37 PM   #26
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The Sovereign Class would win in a 1 on 1 fight but wasn't the point of the Defiant Class that you get a lot of bang for your buck? With the resources needed to build a single Sovereign Class you could probably build 8-10 Defiant Class ships and I doubt you'd need more than a few to take down a Sovereign.
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Old August 14 2013, 05:41 PM   #27
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Janeway would win with random improbable technobabble at the last minute.
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Old August 14 2013, 05:47 PM   #28
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Why not? Voyager's plot shields are so strong in Unimatrix Zero they take on a super tactical cube and not only survive without any ill effect, but make it shut down for repairs? Oi...
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Old August 14 2013, 06:15 PM   #29
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The Sovereign Class would win in a 1 on 1 fight but wasn't the point of the Defiant Class that you get a lot of bang for your buck? With the resources needed to build a single Sovereign Class you could probably build 8-10 Defiant Class ships and I doubt you'd need more than a few to take down a Sovereign.
But remember that Starfleet wasn't about warships, they built ships with multiple capabilities, the best example of this being the Galaxy class. The Defiant was only designed to fight the Borg, as was the Enterprise E along with it's numerous other capabilities.
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Old August 14 2013, 07:16 PM   #30
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I never really bought the idea that Defiants were easy to build. Definitely they were smaller, but they also had a host of other problems, including them being over powered and shaking themselves apart. It took O'brien a couple seasons to sort that out, and the Valiant was having the same problems. If anything, they'd be very maintenance heavy because of that probably. Certainly the show argues this being we only saw 3 in DS9 and 2 in Voyager when they regularly showed fleets of dozens if not hundreds. If they can turn out super death saucers by the dozen, why weren't they given how effective the Defiant was?
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