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Old September 9 2013, 08:39 PM   #181
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When was The Ship Who Sang written? Before or after this episode? It was sometime in 1969 IIRC.I wonder if Spock's Brain could have been an influence. Strong females, a rocket like ION ship, etc.
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Old September 9 2013, 09:21 PM   #182
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When was The Ship Who Sang written? Before or after this episode? It was sometime in 1969 IIRC.I wonder if Spock's Brain could have been an influence. Strong females, a rocket like ION ship, etc.
The answer about The Ship Who Sang.
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Old September 9 2013, 09:45 PM   #183
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I answered this when I first looked it up for confirmation. The original story The Ship Who Sang was written in 1961.
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Old September 9 2013, 09:53 PM   #184
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As for the cheesy title, I always figured it was a take on "Donovan's Brain." Maybe it was meant to be changed later, but not all of Star Trek's titles were amazing.
That's possible. de Forest Research advised the production to change the title on two occasions (the first is quoted below) because of the similarity, but 'Spock's Brain' ultimately stayed.

TITLE – As indicated by writer, recommend title change be considered. One of the ‘classic’ science fiction films is Donovan’s Brain, produced in 1953 from a novel by Curt Siodmak. This film details the keeping alive of the brain of a scientist who has been accidentally killed.
And, hey, just for fun, from the same report:

PREMISE – The basic premise of this story, namely that a human brain is vastly more efficient than a computer complex for organizing and maintaining the life support systems of this underground settlement, is untenable even by present day computer technology. It is now evident that computers that think as humans think can be built given sufficient funds. Suggest the need for the brain might be effectively used to indicate a failure or ‘short circuit’ in the technological development of the planet.
(It should be noted that notes like this broadly criticizing the premise or even suggesting a title change are very rare in the de Forest Research reports for the series).
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Old September 9 2013, 11:49 PM   #185
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PREMISE – The basic premise of this story, namely that a human brain is vastly more efficient than a computer complex for organizing and maintaining the life support systems of this underground settlement, is untenable even by present day computer technology. It is now evident that computers that think as humans think can be built given sufficient funds. Suggest the need for the brain might be effectively used to indicate a failure or ‘short circuit’ in the technological development of the planet.
Good grief, de Forest Research was really, really overoptimistic about computer technology. The best computers we have today pale next to the complexity of the human brain.
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Old September 9 2013, 11:52 PM   #186
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Well, it was the 1960s, a rather optimistic decade in respect to certain beliefs about where technology was going. I mean, the producers of Star Trek projected it as believably happening only 200 years in the future (although the series was understandably vague about pinning down an exact number).
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Old September 14 2013, 09:57 PM   #187
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A less serious post this week (and one which I just discovered doesn't uncover much -- oh well) about Shatner's weight problems during the series and the production's response:

http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.co...m-problem.html
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A less serious post this week (and one which I just discovered doesn't uncover much -- oh well) about Shatner's weight problems during the series and the production's response:

http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.co...m-problem.html
There are some typos in the entry. Are they <sic>?

"...Bill is as rapacious an animal as any other leading many in a series..."
"...as the simple plain lines of our basic costume render most unflattering any extra poundage around the waste."
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Old September 14 2013, 10:24 PM   #189
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One was my typo; the other was from the original. Fixed.
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Old September 15 2013, 03:12 AM   #190
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I thought the explanation Cushman had in his book made a lot of sense. That between having to spend all his time learning lines, and the stress of his marriage and home life falling apart, he just didn't have the time or motivation to focus on exercising and keeping the weight off as much.

Well, that and he clearly likes to eat.

Actually when it comes to the third season, I thought what was more unflattering with his appearance was the shaggier 60s hair and the flat looking toupee he wore that lacked the blonde highlights from before.
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Old September 19 2013, 06:18 PM   #191
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Short post this week, a memo which posters here might be familiar with:

http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.co...rst-pilot.html

Still working on my review of These Are The Voyages, which will hopefully be done by this weekend, but you never know. I head back to Los Angeles at the end of next week, so expect a hiatus coming up, although I will do my best to write some content ahead of time and schedule it while I'm moving, looking for work, etc.
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Old September 19 2013, 08:57 PM   #192
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Wow, I wish I was as "fat" as Shatner was at that age.
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Old September 20 2013, 04:19 PM   #193
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Great update, Harvey! A few names I haven't seen there.

Skip Homeier as Kirk? Might have worked.

Rex Holman would've made a good Vulcan, but not Spock.

Losira or Nancy Crater as Number One? Fascinating.
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Old September 20 2013, 04:25 PM   #194
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I don't recall seeing Jeanne Bal outside of TOS, but Lee Meriwether would have killed it as Number One if NBC had bought the series from "The Cage."
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Old September 20 2013, 05:33 PM   #195
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Agreed. She was quite the babe, too.
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