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Old July 24 2013, 01:59 PM   #91
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Re: Voyagers ending, redone.

Where is this Otakon thing? Is it on this planet?
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Old July 24 2013, 02:42 PM   #92
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^http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=220699
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Old July 25 2013, 01:40 AM   #93
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Vulcan Logician wrote: View Post
The thing I like about this thread is that it teaches you about Sarsparillas and doesn't just endlessly rag on Endgame.
::rags on Endgame::

Just kidding~!
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Old July 26 2013, 03:19 PM   #94
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the Ending should have taken place in a movie and last episode should have been them making it further and going " we will continue on trying to get back to Earth not stopping and one day we will reach Earth." and her going into warp on the small screen for the last time.
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Old July 26 2013, 04:43 PM   #95
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I would like to have seen a Voyager movie of them getting home instead of endgame. I'm not saying it was bad but a movie would of been better IMO.
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Old July 26 2013, 11:59 PM   #96
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Endgame was a movie.
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Old July 28 2013, 01:24 AM   #97
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^Made for tv movie is more like it.
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Old July 28 2013, 04:37 AM   #98
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Endgame was a movie.
The Final Frontier, Insurrection and Nemesis all rejoice at having someone to look down upon.
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Old July 29 2013, 04:12 PM   #99
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IIRC here in germany Endgame was shown as a two-parter..and there was a week in between..they made us suffer...big time..
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Old July 29 2013, 04:43 PM   #100
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I liked Endgame except for the time travel aspect. It turned their situation into one big paradox. Voyager got home early so Admiral Janeway never existed so she couldn’t have gone back in time to help Voyager get home early.

I think pretty much the same plot could have been achieved without the use of time travel. My own idea for a re-write of Endgame..

Voyager enters the nebula same as before and sees all those ships and runs away. Seven approaches the captain and tells her there is a hub in there. The senior staff sits down and decides that this is their best way home, they have to take the chance. They spend weeks coming up with plot device A(perhaps some kind of shield modification which will make them look like a borg ship if scanned) which they think will get them through to the hub. They go back to the hub and make it halfway through when plot device A begins to fail and Voyager starts getting attacked. When plot device A completely fails Seven contacts the Queen and asks her to call off the attack, if they let Voyager through seven offers to stay with the queen. Durring the attack voyager is damaged beyond any hope of repair, a nacelle is torn off, gaping holes in the hull, etc. As they’re about to call self destruct a group of borg ships surrounds them and tractors voyager and heads to the hub. Voyager is hailed and it’s the Klingon borg from Unimatrix zero. They protect voyager exchanging fire with the other borg ships and go through the hub, firing behind them as they go to destroy the hub behind them. In the Alpha Quadrant the hub opening appears and they get borg readings from it. The few ships that are near assemble and out comes voyager and the freed borg
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Old July 29 2013, 05:42 PM   #101
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I liked Endgame except for the time travel aspect.
That's like saying you support slavery except don't like the racist aspect of it.
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Old July 29 2013, 11:21 PM   #102
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Did olden timey Americans keep Mexicans or Canadians as slaves?

The trip to Africa took a stupid long time.
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Old August 22 2013, 03:04 AM   #103
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To not end the thread on that note (To answer your question Guy Gardener; I hope not but probably), anyone else think instead of needing future Janeway's help, Janeway and crew could have done an 'all or nothing' upgrade (with all the technology they came across) to get through the hub, or find another way home by themselves?
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Old August 22 2013, 03:11 AM   #104
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Future Janeway basically handed the crew a MacGuffin to help them get home. It never felt like the crew earned it. That's why the ending feels so hollow.
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Old August 22 2013, 03:37 AM   #105
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I think they earned it, but it did feel hollow.
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