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Old September 9 2013, 01:46 PM   #76
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Re: Charting the Novel-verse's Discontinuities

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The Lost Years novel Traitor Winds has Starfleet first testing the cloaking device stolen from the Romulans in "The Enterprise Incident" after the end of Kirk's first five year mission, but Section 31: Cloak has it installed on the USS Sphinx shortly after TEI, before the end of the mission.
And doesn't the Enterprise Experiment show the cloaking.device being tested on the Enterprise itself during the five-year mission?
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Old September 9 2013, 03:13 PM   #77
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The Lost Years novel Traitor Winds has Starfleet first testing the cloaking device stolen from the Romulans in "The Enterprise Incident" after the end of Kirk's first five year mission, but Section 31: Cloak has it installed on the USS Sphinx shortly after TEI, before the end of the mission.
I didn't know about this one. I haven't read the Section 31 books.
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Old September 9 2013, 04:06 PM   #78
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By now it's a safe bet that the Lost Years books are part of the older book continuity and don't fit the modern continuity. For that matter, due to all the delays and editorial shifts, the TLY books don't even mesh with each other -- Traitor Winds is earlier in the Enterprise refit process than A Flag Full of Stars, but the calendar dates given are a year later. For that matter, AFFoS is set on the 300th anniversary of the first lunar landing, July 2269, and yet it's more than a year after the end of the 5-year mission. Which doesn't fit with any other chronology I've seen about when the 5YM took place, and certainly doesn't mesh with the now-canonical information that it ended in 2270. And yet there's no way to retcon AFFOS with a different calendar date, given that its story is so closely tied to that specific anniversary. That always bothered me about it from the start.
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Old September 9 2013, 07:57 PM   #79
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In the timeline at the back of Voyages Of Imagination. didn't the timeline authors retcon A Flag Full Of Stars as taking place during the 300th Anniversary Celebrations of the Apollo missions (1968-1972), and not just the moon landing? Sure it's not in the novel, but that's one way to make it fit.
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Old September 9 2013, 11:05 PM   #80
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^In-universe, that makes sense. Metatextually, it still feels like a hamfisted and misspelled attempt at a "Farpoint" homage. After all, Deneb in "Farpoint" was supposed to be the beginning of a mission beyond explored space, though that idea was almost immediately abandoned.
And the fact that Deneb was suppossed to be out where nobody had been didn't make sense either given the reference to "Denebian slime devils" in TOS (as well as non-canon references to various denebian spacies in novels (especially Diane Duane's)), which would seem to imply quite a bit of familiarity with the place 100 years before the events of of "Farpoint". Picard and Co. act like the place is a recent discovery or something.
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Old September 9 2013, 11:31 PM   #81
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^In-universe, that makes sense. Metatextually, it still feels like a hamfisted and misspelled attempt at a "Farpoint" homage. After all, Deneb in "Farpoint" was supposed to be the beginning of a mission beyond explored space, though that idea was almost immediately abandoned.
And the fact that Deneb was suppossed to be out where nobody had been didn't make sense either given the reference to "Denebian slime devils" in TOS (as well as non-canon references to various denebian spacies in novels (especially Diane Duane's)), which would seem to imply quite a bit of familiarity with the place 100 years before the events of of "Farpoint". Picard and Co. act like the place is a recent discovery or something.
You're just asking Christopher to go all "Orion's Hounds" on you at this point.
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Old September 9 2013, 11:52 PM   #82
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Here's an inconsistency that I cannot reconcile and bothers me.



What happened there?
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Old September 10 2013, 12:41 AM   #83
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Here's an inconsistency that I cannot reconcile and bothers me.



What happened there?
Perhaps DRGIII goofed and no one caught it; or perhaps someone in the editorial process mis-remembered which ship it was and "corrected" it; or perhaps the error was caught and corrected at the editorial stage, but someone in the printing stage messed up and didn't incorporate the correction. Any number of scenarios are possible.

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