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Old June 7 2013, 10:55 AM   #76
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Re: Do we even want another Star Trek movie?

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I stopped reading at:

"...even the ship designed to function in the vacuum of space could handle the pressures underwater — which I’m 99% sure it can’t..."

Which alone displays the writer's sheer lack of Trek knowledge. For starters, you may remember Insurrection hiding a village-sized holoship underwater on the Ba'ku planet.
Why do you stop there and not continue reading? Also, is the holoship the same as the Enterprise? And why go underwater? Why not stay in orbit?

There are more flaws, by the way.
So you really think your favourite Trek episode or movie would stand up to that kind of OCD scrutiny? Because if you do you're kidding yourself. I imagine you must hate Wrath of Khan for similar reasons you do Into Darkness?
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Old June 7 2013, 08:03 PM   #77
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Complaining about the use of cold fusion in fucking science fiction is one of the most ridiculous arguments I've read against STiD. And that says a lot.
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Old June 7 2013, 09:00 PM   #78
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I think the problem with the Star Wars prequels was that Anakin was such a douche I didn't care about him becoming Vader.
He isn't in the Clone Wars TV show, but becomes distressed and agitated after being denied the rank of Jedi Master, and also because of the regulations against personal entanglements and the death of his mom. That would fuck me up but good-in fact, it would fuck anybody up but good. Being a douche? More like a tragic hero who became a villain when things got out of control.
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Old June 7 2013, 09:00 PM   #79
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Complaining about the use of cold fusion in fucking science fiction is one of the most ridiculous arguments I've read against STiD. And that says a lot.
Indeed. Though personally I would've used a different term, to avoid confusion.
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Old June 7 2013, 10:38 PM   #80
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More like a tragic hero who became a villain when things got out of control.
I quit buying him as a tragic hero when he went and slaughtered a village of Jawas.
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Old June 7 2013, 10:55 PM   #81
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Well the whole point of being tragic is doing bad stuff at some point.
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Old June 7 2013, 11:05 PM   #82
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Well the whole point of being tragic is doing bad stuff at some point.
But the character has to be somewhat likable at some point as well. There was nothing likable about Anakin Skywalker in Attack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith.
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Old June 8 2013, 12:46 AM   #83
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But the character has to be somewhat likable at some point as well.
I think we are talking about the CGI series as well.

And he killed Sand People in Attack of the Clones. A bit more forgiveable than poor Jawas.

Damn those marksman stormtroopers !
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Old June 8 2013, 01:18 AM   #84
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I think we are talking about the CGI series as well.

And he killed Sand People in Attack of the Clones. A bit more forgiveable than poor Jawas.
But you can't go back a decade after the fact and erase those feelings that formed as you watched it on the big-screen.

It was Sand People, still unforgivable to execute the whole lot of them.
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Old June 8 2013, 03:04 AM   #85
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They're animals !!!

I don't really form "feelings" when I'm watching fiction. Not in that sense, anyway.
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Old June 8 2013, 03:42 AM   #86
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I don't really form "feelings" when I'm watching fiction. Not in that sense, anyway.
What kind of monster are you?
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Old June 16 2013, 04:02 AM   #87
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Given major problems with the story of the recent one, it's best to have no more.
Agreed.

No more "unemotional" Spock screaming and crying for his "t'hy'la"(google it Gen Y)whom he met one movie ago and spent a movie and a half either marooning on a planet or openly arguing with.

Best friends, my fat hairy arse.

No more skinny Khans or "tributes" to older films(that did it better)when you created a new universe to tell new stories.


They dropped the ball.


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Old June 16 2013, 09:12 AM   #88
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Well the friendship between Kirk and Spock in the new movies is forced at best. I'm not the biggest fan of the JJ movies, but doesn't mean I want them to stop making them. There's always hope that hope that they'll use the clean slate that is the reboot to do something wholly original next movie instead of "paying tribute" to the old movies.
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Old June 16 2013, 10:37 AM   #89
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Agreed.

No more "unemotional" Spock screaming and crying for his "t'hy'la"(google it Gen Y)whom he met one movie ago and spent a movie and a half either marooning on a planet or openly arguing with.

Best friends, my fat hairy arse.

No more skinny Khans or "tributes" to older films(that did it better)when you created a new universe to tell new stories.


They dropped the ball.


Majorly.
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Well the friendship between Kirk and Spock in the new movies is forced at best.
True. But then we didn't see what goes on in the year between films, and character development is, of course, harder in movies.
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Old June 16 2013, 11:40 AM   #90
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The short asnwer is yes, but not every story needs an end as the OP. Sure the adventures we see need a begining a middle and an end, but the overall story doesn't. The Adventure is ust begining to paraphrase one of the taglines from one of the ST movies.

In the 22nd Century we had Archer
In the 23rd Century we had Kirk
In the 24th Century we had Picard, Sisko and Janeway
What of the 25th, 26th, 27th, 28th, 29th, 30th... Centuries? There is a whole universe of possibilities to explore.
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