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Old July 3 2013, 03:35 AM   #31
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Wouldn't Spock be the oldest TREK character? He's the only hold-over from the original pilot.

"We like the pointy-eared guy, scrap everything else."
Actually NBC hated "the pointy-eared guy." They were afraid he came off as too satanic and strange. But Roddenberry fought to keep him. They also wanted to keep Jeffrey Hunter as the captain, but Hunter himself (or his wife) decided that wasn't going to happen. As for Number One, the network would've been happy to keep the character if she'd been recast -- they didn't like the nepotism and potential scandal of the producer casting his mistress in the role. But rather than admitting that, Roddenberry dropped the character altogether and found a different, less central role for Majel Barrett.
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Old July 3 2013, 09:15 PM   #32
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Old July 5 2013, 10:44 PM   #33
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When Q was still in diapers, the Guardian of Forever had hair growing out of his ears.
I thought the Q had always existed?
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Old July 14 2013, 05:39 PM   #34
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When Q was still in diapers, the Guardian of Forever had hair growing out of his ears.
I thought the Q had always existed?
Q (Quinn) from Voyagers "Death Wish" episode explain the Q were humanoid around the big bang but since time is irrelevant to a Q, they could have still always existed.
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Old July 14 2013, 06:09 PM   #35
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Q (Quinn) from Voyagers "Death Wish" episode explain the Q were humanoid around the big bang
Uhh, no, I checked, and he didn't say that.
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Old July 14 2013, 06:37 PM   #36
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When Q was still in diapers, the Guardian of Forever had hair growing out of his ears.
I thought the Q had always existed?
Who can say? Maybe the Q evolved as biological beings on a planet millions of light years from the Milky Way a billion years from now. But when they developed their omnipotence, they've been able to travel from one end of the universe to the other, both in space and time, from the Big Bang to its final destruction. In a certain way, then, the Q could be considered to have always existed.
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Old July 15 2013, 04:52 AM   #37
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Grand Nagus Zek comes to mind.
I know Zek has been doing his job for 85 years but I wouldn't be surprised if he was under 100. I have a feeling Ferengi age poorly.
In "The Magnificent Ferengi", Ishka says that, after her cosmetic surgery, her lobes "haven't been this firm in over a century". So Ishka and Zek (who seems even older) are over a hundred years old.
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Old July 15 2013, 05:27 AM   #38
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In "The Magnificent Ferengi", Ishka says that, after her cosmetic surgery, her lobes "haven't been this firm in over a century". So Ishka and Zek (who seems even older) are over a hundred years old.
But do we know how long a Ferenginar year is? It could be half an Earth year.
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^Star Trek usually defaults to assuming everyone uses Earth time measurements. Implicitly, the magic of television isn't just translating their speech into English, it's interpreting their time units as well.
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Q (Quinn) from Voyagers "Death Wish" episode explain the Q were humanoid around the big bang
Uhh, no, I checked, and he didn't say that.
I found it here...
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Q_%28species%29
I thought I read it somewhere else but I can't find any other source other than this one though it may have been on memory-alpha where I first (and only) read it.
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Old July 16 2013, 04:11 AM   #41
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What it says on Memory Alpha is, "While Quinn stated that the Q were once not unlike humanoid lifeforms, Q implied that the Q never came in to existence, but rather always were." That's certainly not Quinn saying that the Q actually were humanoid, let alone that they were that way "around the Big Bang," which would've been completely impossible.
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