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Old June 2 2013, 02:16 AM   #136
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

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Never compare your project to another project.
I don't get that. So many films are pitched as "it's x meets y!" short-hand. I mean, there's a reason films are so damn derivative. Don't think Into Darkness wasn't compared to Dark Knight Rises at some point behind closed doors, for instance, right down to the instructions given to the guy who did the movie-poster. Anything that's successful becomes used as a keyword in pitch-meetings and there's rampant copying. They just make sure they file off the serial numbers enough to not get sued.
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Old June 2 2013, 02:17 AM   #137
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CBS legal might say otherwise.
yes, true, and when/if i have to, i (my attorney) will detail for them the entirety of my online self promotion efforts. there's a number of methods with which to protect myself and CBS. WGA registration was a step.

if it doesn't get bought, it simply doesn't get bought.
life goes on; i tried.

my story involves the use of Chris Pine et al, in time/age sensitive roles. if it doesn't stick, it goes away, or it finds another medium/format and licensing attempt.
You need an entertainment law and film writing class badly.

You can't write spec banking on a set specific actors. Pine may not want to go back to TV, he might not want to be Kirk after the next movie. You never bank your story on the casting.
i'm not "banking on Pine" .. i'd like to be able to reuse him.
i'd very much like to get my 1&2, and i believe that's achievable

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Old June 2 2013, 02:20 AM   #138
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(got the entertainment lawyer, for when i officially need her)
You know that the cashier at the local Family Video doesn't count?
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Old June 2 2013, 02:20 AM   #139
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You can't write spec banking on a set specific actors. Pine may not want to go back to TV, he might not want to be Kirk after the next movie. You never bank your story on the casting.
How dare you question zekkie! He's got it all figured out!
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Old June 2 2013, 02:22 AM   #140
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A bit of advice I got ages back: Never compare your project to another project. The minute you say "Well my book(show) is like <other popular book/show>", you've already biased them to think you're ripping off someone else. You should be able to sell your work its merits, not by comparing it to other works.

Plus, how do you know they've seen Farscape or Lost In Space. How you know they've even seen Star Trek for that matter.
Lost in Space?
The show...? You DO know there was a show called Lost in Space, right? Or am I misinterpreting your question?
i never brought up Lost in Space. somehow, somebody got that hot idea as a comparison. not mine.

obvious it's a tv show. not obvious why that comparison was made. (it's nowhere in the treatment)
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Old June 2 2013, 02:23 AM   #141
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(got the entertainment lawyer, for when i officially need her)
You know that the cashier at the local Family Video doesn't count?
keep dreaming, buddy.
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Old June 2 2013, 02:23 AM   #142
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You can't write spec banking on a set specific actors. Pine may not want to go back to TV, he might not want to be Kirk after the next movie. You never bank your story on the casting.
That's one of the first things that struck me in the OP. Stephen Fry ? Why call it from the get-go ?

You and about every other asshole wannabe knocking of their door.
There's really no need to be rude, though, Seer.
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Old June 2 2013, 02:27 AM   #143
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There's really no need to be rude, though, Seer.
I'm getting to the same page as SeerSGB. Starting to feel like this is nothing but a troll thread.
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Old June 2 2013, 02:28 AM   #144
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You can't write spec banking on a set specific actors. Pine may not want to go back to TV, he might not want to be Kirk after the next movie. You never bank your story on the casting.
That's one of the first things that struck me in the OP. Stephen Fry ? Why call it from the get-go ?

You and about every other asshole wannabe knocking of their door.
There's really no need to be rude, though, Seer.
Actually it's a quote from an old creative writing teacher of mine. When someone in the class would say "I got an in, I know someone/people'. The response was always "You and about every other asshole wannabe knocking on their door".
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Old June 2 2013, 02:29 AM   #145
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You can't write spec banking on a set specific actors. Pine may not want to go back to TV, he might not want to be Kirk after the next movie. You never bank your story on the casting.
That's one of the first things that struck me in the OP. Stephen Fry ? Why call it from the get-go ?

There's really no need to be rude, though, Seer.
because Stephen Fry fits the profile of April to a T. in terms of attributes and resume. the same with Felicia Day as Colt.

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Robert_April

why... it's about being ready and having a vision (and names) to present, just in case.

can it be re-worked? yes. if it has to, but not on anyone's directive but the actors or studio.
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Old June 2 2013, 02:30 AM   #146
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You can't write spec banking on a set specific actors. Pine may not want to go back to TV, he might not want to be Kirk after the next movie. You never bank your story on the casting.
That's one of the first things that struck me in the OP. Stephen Fry ? Why call it from the get-go ?

You and about every other asshole wannabe knocking of their door.
There's really no need to be rude, though, Seer.
Actually it's a quote from an old creative writing teacher of mine. When someone in the class would say "I got an in, I know someone/people'. The response was always "You and about every other asshole wannabe knocking on their door".
determination, gumption, and perseverance are also in my nature.

like i said. i'll take the chance.
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Old June 2 2013, 02:31 AM   #147
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There's really no need to be rude, though, Seer.
I'm getting to the same page as SeerSGB. Starting to feel like this is nothing but a troll thread.
funny, i had that same feeling.
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Old June 2 2013, 02:35 AM   #148
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Re: STAR TREK: a series treatment starring APRIL and COLT

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There's really no need to be rude, though, Seer.
I'm getting to the same page as SeerSGB. Starting to feel like this is nothing but a troll thread.
funny, i had that same feeling.
People here have offered you sound legal and creative advice. Which I thought you asked for, but then you've promptly ignored all of it.

Might be best if you quit wasting you immense creative talents here and go sharpen that concept and 188-episodes.
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Old June 2 2013, 02:38 AM   #149
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I'm getting to the same page as SeerSGB. Starting to feel like this is nothing but a troll thread.
funny, i had that same feeling.
People here have offered you sound legal and creative advice. Which I thought you asked for, but then you've promptly ignored all of it.

Might be best if you quit wasting you immense creative talents here and go sharpen that concept and 188-episodes.
uh huh... i presented a product. i didn't ask for ANY creative or legal advice. i asked for criticism, which i bore.

i will take your last line of advice that you presented, as it is sage wisdom.
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I'm getting to the same page as SeerSGB. Starting to feel like this is nothing but a troll thread.
That's a whole lot of work for a troll, but I have to admit that the super-confidence and "I have a friend everywhere in the biz" type thing is seeding doubt in my mind.
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