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Old May 31 2013, 09:53 PM   #1
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What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

Obviously, with the reboot, technically all of Star Trek from 1966-2005 is "Old Trek", but that's 40 years worth of material, and some of it doesn't feel as if it was that long ago.

From your perspective, what do you think of as being "Old Trek"? There's no right or wrong answer.

These days, I think of TOS, the TOS movies, and TNG as "Old Trek". The last two movies are "New Trek".

I think of the series produced after TNG ended as a TV series but before the 2009 reboot as in the middle. The first two seasons of DS9 and the last two seasons of TNG are a gray area where the "Old" overlaps with the "Middle".

This wasn't always the way I looked at it, but as most of TNG has moved passed "20 years ago" territory, and after going to the theater and seeing some of these episodes for the first time in a long time, it's shifted my view.

Has anyone else's perspective changed recently?
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Old May 31 2013, 10:08 PM   #2
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

Old Trek: TOS, I love these guys, Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and company, great fun all the time. Rebooted Trek: TNG, and subsequent series. While some was enjoyable, this era never felt as enjoyable as TOS. Latest reboot: JJTrek, back to TOS with Kirk, Spock, McCoy. The fun is back.
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Old May 31 2013, 10:11 PM   #3
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

Strictly: TOS

Loosly: Anything before TNG appeared.
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Old May 31 2013, 10:18 PM   #4
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

TOS is oldest to me.
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Old May 31 2013, 11:31 PM   #5
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

TOS is "old Trek", maybe up to The Voyage Home. TNG through Enterprise would be kinda like the "second age" of Trek, in many ways the golden age of the franchise, during which it had the highest profile, in my opinion.

It is the third age of Trek. The year is 2013. The name of the place is Bab... oh, wait.
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Old June 1 2013, 12:16 AM   #6
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

"Old Trek" is TOS. And old because it came out in my little kid days. And I'm old, so TOS is old.

TNG onward... I can remember watching that stuff like it was last Tuesday, so in my life it's not old to me.
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Old June 1 2013, 01:16 AM   #7
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

A decade ago, there was classic Trek (TOS and its movies) and modern Trek (TNG and beyond). Nowadays, TNG is as old as TOS was when TNG was on the air, and relatively speaking, it's getting closer and closer to TOS in hindsight....
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Old June 1 2013, 01:19 AM   #8
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

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TOS is oldest to me.
Yeah, but TOS is oldest simply by virtue of the fact that it is also first.

As far as what I regard as "Old Trek", I'd also have to say TOS is old. This because it was the ONLY Star Trek show made before my time (I was born a little over a year after TOS ended production, but was there for everything else.).

That said, for me, there is no "Old Trek", only "Old Randy".
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Old June 1 2013, 01:22 AM   #9
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

Old Trek:
TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, & ENT

New Trek:
Abramsverse movies.
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Old June 1 2013, 01:45 AM   #10
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TOS is oldest to me.
Yeah, but TOS is oldest simply by virtue of the fact that it is also first.

As far as what I regard as "Old Trek", I'd also have to say TOS is old. This because it was the ONLY Star Trek show made before my time (I was born a little over a year after TOS ended production, but was there for everything else.).

That said, for me, there is no "Old Trek", only "Old Randy".
Get off the lawn, young'un! Star Trek was the first ST made after my time. My age was a single digit when it premiered.
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Old June 1 2013, 01:56 AM   #11
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

oldTrek is everything before Abrams; nuTrek is the Abrams movies.
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Old June 1 2013, 02:07 AM   #12
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

Why "nu" ? Why not "new" ? "Nu" seems so... 4chan-ish...
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Old June 1 2013, 02:19 AM   #13
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

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TOS is oldest to me.
Yeah, but TOS is oldest simply by virtue of the fact that it is also first.

As far as what I regard as "Old Trek", I'd also have to say TOS is old. This because it was the ONLY Star Trek show made before my time (I was born a little over a year after TOS ended production, but was there for everything else.).

That said, for me, there is no "Old Trek", only "Old Randy".
Get off the lawn, young'un! Star Trek was the first ST made after my time. My age was a single digit when it premiered.
Children! I was already into double digits when TOS premiered. But I never watched until TNG came around, so...

TOS is sort of Old Trek. Abrams is New Trek. Everything else is just Trek.
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Old June 1 2013, 02:40 AM   #14
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

Old trek was the Trek movies made before TNG. TOS is ancient- made before Neil and Buzz walked on the moon
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Old June 1 2013, 02:41 AM   #15
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Re: What do you think of as "Old Trek"?

Belz makes a good point above about STIV being a kind of dividing line. STV and STVI kind of carry a broader "new broom" feel. Both were made while TNG was in production (the first when it was still the baby of the franchise, the second after TNG had firmly established itself as The Star Trek of the 1990s). It's interesting to note that while STV only takes baby steps towards incorporating elements established on TNG, primarily in terms of showing co-operation between Klingons and Kirk's crew, TUC basically hangs its plot on references to 24th century Trek. In a lot of ways STVI is the most displaced TOS movie, because it's the only one where the goal-posts had moved and nearly everybody involved in it's production kind of acknowledged that TOS wasn't the only game in town anymore.

If I were going to segregate my Trek, 1966-1986 would be one epoch, 1987-2001 would be a second epoch. After that Trek turns inwards on itself, becoming much more introspective. Enterprise and NuTrek are both attempts to effectively refresh the franchise by looking backwards instead of forward. They're a distinctly different beast than even the TNG/DS9/VOY era.
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