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Old August 4 2013, 04:05 PM   #1
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What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

I hadnt really noticed the interior of the Delta Flyer before.. But as I am watching the episode nightingale, I see there is a SLEW of TOS -esque dials and gizmo's and whirly gigs on the helm!!!


Where the fuck are the lcars stations?? WTF is with this throttle bullshit? Is Tom for real (you know it was his cracked out Captain Proton hysteria that did all the decorating)


I cant believe b'llana and SEVEN would tolerate this guilty pleasure pandering..

I know some of you will "appreciate" this twisted nostalgia.. but COME ON people.. it is just, 24th century ghetto... Might as well re-christen it the Delta Flying Cadillac and call it a day!!!


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Old August 4 2013, 04:06 PM   #2
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

Tom put those controls there because he's a fan of old time science fiction. He likes the Buck Rogers-style manual controls, so that's why the Flyer has them.
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Old August 4 2013, 05:18 PM   #3
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

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Tom put those controls there because he's a fan of old time science fiction. He likes the Buck Rogers-style manual controls, so that's why the Flyer has them.
Yeah I more or less figured that.. Tom deserves an ass whup. He single handedly set white people back 1000 years..

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Old August 4 2013, 05:45 PM   #4
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

This is covered in the episode where the Flyer is constructed, IIRC.
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Old August 4 2013, 06:03 PM   #5
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

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This is covered in the episode where the Flyer is constructed, IIRC.
If this was season 5, i might have skipped it. But wait.. werent they using the flyer long before that?

Let me know if you rememeber.. I'll go back and rewatch the episode.
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Old August 4 2013, 06:12 PM   #6
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

Early S5.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Extreme_Risk_(episode)
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Old August 4 2013, 10:19 PM   #7
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

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Tom put those controls there because he's a fan of old time science fiction. He likes the Buck Rogers-style manual controls, so that's why the Flyer has them.
Yeah I more or less figured that.. Tom deserves an ass whup. He single handedly set white people back 1000 years..

-crim
I don't see how Tom's sci-fi habits have anything to do with white people, unless that's just some generic catch all racial insult I missed.
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Old August 4 2013, 11:26 PM   #8
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

B'Elanna was distracted by her depression and didn't want to work on the Flyer at all.

Tuvok tried to protest the "cool aspects" of Tom's exterior design but since it didn't detract from function, Tom prevailed.

You'll be happy that in the future (Timeless) the Flyer had (IIRC) holographic 3D controls.


Come to think of it...

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Riker_Maneuver

Since we also saw the "stick" on the Enterprise E, I suspect it was something more basic...

http://www.trekmate.org.uk/wp-conten...s_joystick.jpg

... like a simple response to the gaming craze sweeping the US in the 1990's

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Insurrection/Joystick.jpg

Who else had a joystick on the bridge, was it Farscape or Andromeda?
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Old August 5 2013, 12:20 AM   #9
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

I don't understand your reaction at all. Frankly, if given the chance, I probably would have done the same thing. I agree with Tom, I would want to "feel" the vessel I'm piloting, not just press buttons. Apparently, for precision flying a joystick is the way to go - from the NX-01 to the Enterprise-E
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Old August 5 2013, 01:37 AM   #10
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

Defiant Obrien wrote: View Post
Mr. Laser Beam wrote: View Post
Tom put those controls there because he's a fan of old time science fiction. He likes the Buck Rogers-style manual controls, so that's why the Flyer has them.
Yeah I more or less figured that.. Tom deserves an ass whup. He single handedly set white people back 1000 years..

-crim
WTF kind of bigoted, racist comment is this?

What the hell does it matter WHAT color skin the Voyager characters have (or if they have skin at all)?

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Tom put those controls there because he's a fan of old time science fiction. He likes the Buck Rogers-style manual controls, so that's why the Flyer has them.
Yeah I more or less figured that.. Tom deserves an ass whup. He single handedly set white people back 1000 years..

-crim
I don't see how Tom's sci-fi habits have anything to do with white people, unless that's just some generic catch all racial insult I missed.
You didn't miss it. It's there for all of us to read.

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I don't understand your reaction at all. Frankly, if given the chance, I probably would have done the same thing. I agree with Tom, I would want to "feel" the vessel I'm piloting, not just press buttons. Apparently, for precision flying a joystick is the way to go - from the NX-01 to the Enterprise-E
As someone with impaired vision, I applaud Tom's decision to make the controls usable by feel as well as by sight. Back in the days when I had a rotary dial phone, I could use that thing by feel, in the pitch dark when I had to. I could use a manual or electric typewriter without looking at it, because I could feel everything with my fingers.

People are so damned spoiled and lazy these days...
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Old August 5 2013, 03:41 AM   #11
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

I wasn't going to comment on the "white people" statement, but I have to agree with Timewalker and others that's its not relevant at all and is pretty offensive. People are people. Trek, most of all, recognizes that fact and extends that philosophy to include not just humans, but to all species.
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Old August 5 2013, 03:43 AM   #12
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

And yeah... Tom is a history buff and enjoys classic sci-fi, so...it's only natural that his ship might reflect that passion.
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Old August 5 2013, 06:04 AM   #13
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

I liked that the Flyer had classic controls. It's always been a pet peeve of mine in Trek that the ships pretty much can fly themselves. Like Tom Said in Extreme Risk, he wanted to actually feel what he was flying. I don't blame him.
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Old August 5 2013, 06:30 AM   #14
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

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Old August 5 2013, 01:19 PM   #15
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Re: What the devil did Tom do to the Delta Flyer?!?!

The Flyer was constructed in Extreme Risk. Tom actually brought up a good point in my opinion about not wanting to just tap pannels but rather have controls he could feel
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