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Old June 3 2013, 02:14 AM   #106
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She knew how. She should know how. Former science officer of the USS Al-Batani.

It didn't cross Kathryn's mind that she would have to.

Londo Mollari said it best: "Truly mad people do not know that they are mad, they tend to talk about mad things as casually as you or I would talk about the weather."
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Old June 3 2013, 02:59 AM   #107
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I prefer Shakespeare: "If this be madness, there is method in it."

Now that's Janeway.
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Old June 3 2013, 03:05 AM   #108
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"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad"

Euripides.

When did they declare victory on making Kathy mad, and start trying to kill her?
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Old June 3 2013, 03:18 AM   #109
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There are no gods. So, never.

But if you want old greeks Aristotle says, "There is not genius without a mixture of madness."
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Old June 3 2013, 03:27 AM   #110
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Q is crying into his beer right now you heartless monster!
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Old June 3 2013, 04:04 AM   #111
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She knew how. She should know how. Former science officer of the USS Al-Batani.
Nah, she didn't know how to do it. That was an affirmative action promotion. They didn't have their quota of female science officers, and Janeway had taken algebra in high school.
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Old June 3 2013, 04:33 AM   #112
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There is no sexism or affirmative action in the future.

Nepotism for an Admiral's child however?
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Old June 3 2013, 07:14 AM   #113
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Janeway definitely was friendly to every Admiral in sight from the few flashback episodes we saw. And even before Paris rocked her world in Threshold she was soft on him because of daddy.
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Old June 3 2013, 05:05 PM   #114
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There is no sexism...in the future.
Tell that to poor Harry Kim who almost got eaten by Terisian women who only wanted him for his sperm!
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Old June 3 2013, 08:22 PM   #115
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There is no human on human sexism.

Federationwide it's a bit iffy.

Galaxywide there are sexist pigs everywhere.
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Old June 3 2013, 09:31 PM   #116
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There is no human on human sexism.
OK, Captain Janeway is trapped with a male and a female crew member on a planet, her ship has been destroyed--it's back to basics. Who would she pick between the two if she decided it necessary that her eggs be fertilized. If she picks one or the other solely based on sex, she is being sexist.

Sexism is still there in the future.
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Old June 3 2013, 09:43 PM   #117
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Biology isn't sexism. She isn't the worst captain. Troll threads are lame.
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Old June 3 2013, 11:55 PM   #118
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Biology isn't sexism.
Are you saying that with a straight face? Biology has everything to do with it. Sexism is discrimination based on a person's sex.

Men and women's brain structures are different. They have different hormonal levels. Men are better at some things (e.g., spatial tasks), women are better than men at other things (e.g., color perception). To ignore this is impossible in some situations, like the extreme example I gave, and ignorant in others.
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Old June 4 2013, 12:40 AM   #119
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Sexism is unfair discrimination based on a person's sex. It is not unfair that a man cannot give birth, this is not sexism. It's sex itself, as in biology.
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Old June 4 2013, 01:00 AM   #120
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Biology isn't sexism. She isn't the worst captain. Troll threads are lame.
Agreed...
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