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Old May 29 2013, 09:38 AM   #1
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I was wondering whether Carol Marcus actually is a weapons expert in this timeline. There's no doubt that she's handy with a torpedo or two, but her résumé also includes 'science officer' and 'doctor in applied physics'.

I got the impression that her interest in weapons has something to do with her father—like a subsidiary curiosity. Otherwise, I think her main vocation is physics. This would certainly make sense for the (potential) third film.
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Old May 29 2013, 09:47 AM   #2
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Yeah, because science (especially applied physics) would be completely useless to a weapons expert.
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Old May 29 2013, 10:02 AM   #3
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Yeah, because science (especially applied physics) would be completely useless to a weapons expert.
No. It would be very useful, actually. People these days...

The point I was making is that the 'weapons specialist' angle was something which seemed to be a plot device to get Carol Marcus on the ship. As John Le Carre would say, a cover story is a cover story is a cover story.

He might not say that.
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Old May 29 2013, 11:12 AM   #4
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Except Spock googled her and found out who she really was and I think if she had NOT been a weapons expert he would have blabbed that to everyone. Like he did her real name.
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Old May 29 2013, 11:24 AM   #5
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She did falsify her orders. I don't think she's a super-weapon expert.
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Old May 29 2013, 11:55 AM   #6
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She has a PhD in science but earned extra money as a student as a pole dancer at London's Spearmint Rhino Club.
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Old May 29 2013, 12:00 PM   #7
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She did falsify her orders. I don't think she's a super-weapon expert.
If Spock found out who she really was he also found out what her training and expertise was. I'm pretty sure he would have said something before they started getting her to do torpedo stuff if that was all bullshit.
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Old May 29 2013, 12:04 PM   #8
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Maybe her field is "subatomic rearrangement physics"
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Old May 29 2013, 12:41 PM   #9
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Why can't she be a weapons expert? In the prime timeline she did develop the Genesis Torpedo afterall.

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Old May 29 2013, 01:51 PM   #10
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Of course, and in the Prime Timeline we see her a lot older and now diversified. She may well have started out as a weapons expert.
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Old May 29 2013, 07:09 PM   #11
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Why can't she be a weapons expert? In the prime timeline she did develop the Genesis Torpedo afterall.
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Old May 29 2013, 07:12 PM   #12
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It's a new timeline. NuCarol went into applied physics and used her expertise in weapons for Starfleet. Carol Prime went into applied physics, and used her expertise to develop "weapons" of terraforming. I wonder if Carol Prime was ever in Starfleet.
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Old May 29 2013, 07:12 PM   #13
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Why can't she be a weapons expert? In the prime timeline she did develop the Genesis Torpedo afterall.
Yeah but it wasn't a weapon. And I think only the Klingons call it that.
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Old May 29 2013, 07:22 PM   #14
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Carol Marcus has plenty of time to develop the Genesis Device if that's something she's going to do in this reality. There's still what, 20 years before she would have done that in the Prime Universe?
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Old May 29 2013, 07:57 PM   #15
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Well, the atomic bomb became atomic power. So she might understand the dynamics of photon torpedoes or something. To be honest, she seemed to understand the the circuitry of the torpedo itself, and not the warhead, so she might've (in the Prime Timeline) programmed the torpedo casing and primary circuitry and mechanisms for the Genesis device and NOT the actual terraform program. That was done by David.
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