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Star Trek Movies I-X Discuss the first ten big screen outings in this forum!

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Old June 12 2013, 11:55 PM   #31
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neoworx brilliant WOK uniform colors.
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Old June 12 2013, 11:58 PM   #32
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I'd suggest going a little further by making the turtleneck and the shoulder rank thingie black....
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Old June 13 2013, 08:39 PM   #33
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Wasn't there something about Bob Blackman doing dye tests with the TMP jumpsuits (which became the cadet uniforms) to see what would take?

IIRC the uniforms could have been blue.
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Old June 14 2013, 10:15 AM   #34
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Wasn't there something about Bob Blackman doing dye tests with the TMP jumpsuits (which became the cadet uniforms) to see what would take?

IIRC the uniforms could have been blue.
WOK costume designer Robert Fletcher oversaw dye tests of the TMP jumpsuits (since they needed to reuse them), trying a variety of colors. Nick Meyer preferred the maroon over other possibilites.
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Old June 15 2013, 05:59 PM   #35
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I like the red and blue... but I think the yellow needs a little adjustment...
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Old June 17 2013, 08:10 AM   #36
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I've often wondered how the TWOK jacket would look in gold and blue.
Spock wears a blue one on the cover of the novel "Yesterday's Son".
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I think that the undershirts from the movie-era uniforms would work great as a day-to-day duty uniform. Take off the jacket, attach an insignia to the shirt, and voila - each department has a different color, and it would look pretty similar to the Cage / WNMHGB uniforms even.
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Old June 17 2013, 02:21 PM   #38
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^Indeed...another look that would have worked better as a transition uniform in TNG flashbacks.
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Old June 17 2013, 03:21 PM   #39
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I think that the undershirts from the movie-era uniforms would work great as a day-to-day duty uniform. Take off the jacket, attach an insignia to the shirt, and voila - each department has a different color, and it would look pretty similar to the Cage / WNMHGB uniforms even.
That's a great idea – I like it!
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Old June 17 2013, 04:06 PM   #40
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I think the problem with the movie-era uniforms is they are the most unusual-looking compared to all the other uniforms. So they kind of stick out like a sore thumb. Almost steampunk in a way, especially the ornate ranking pins. I do like them, but they represent kind of a stylistic anomaly. I think the Nemesis uniforms were probably the best at striking a middle-ground between a tight-fitting jumpsuit and more of a thick jacket approach with the pinstripes, piping, and quilting.
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Old June 17 2013, 05:03 PM   #41
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^And yet, in-continuity, the TWOK uniforms are by and far the longest-lived that we know of, having mostly survived until only a decade or so before TNG. Which also sticks out, given that when the series is in production, they seem to change uniforms every few years.
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Old June 17 2013, 06:43 PM   #42
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Technically, the change between season two and three of TNG is one of manufacturing and materials, not one of design, so certain parties may consider it to be a non-change change. Almost like going from velour to stretch poplin between seasons two and three of TOS.
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Old June 17 2013, 08:49 PM   #43
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It was a minor change, but the two uniforms were easily visually distinguishable, especially the neck area. Doesn't change anything, as even if you counted those two as the same uniform, it was only around for maybe 20 years tops in-continuity. The TWOK uniforms, with and without the turtleneck and belt, were around for 70 or more.
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Old June 17 2013, 09:19 PM   #44
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Wasn't there something about Bob Blackman doing dye tests with the TMP jumpsuits (which became the cadet uniforms) to see what would take?

IIRC the uniforms could have been blue.

TMP jumpsuits became Enlisted uniforms. Cadet uniforms were jackets with red turtle necks.
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Old June 18 2013, 01:26 AM   #45
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Technically, the change between season two and three of TNG is one of manufacturing and materials, not one of design, so certain parties may consider it to be a non-change change. Almost like going from velour to stretch poplin between seasons two and three of TOS.
Absolutely, I'm in that school of thought which counts both variants as basically the same uniform. Despite the obvious (but subtle) visual differences between them, the TNG uniforms from seasons 1/2 and the ones from season 3-7 are effectively the same design. Alteration of the collar and shoulders and seperation to being a two-piece does not a brand new uniform make, IMO.
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