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Old May 28 2013, 06:47 PM   #16
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Re: "Mister" Spock, Scott, Chekov and Sulu?

I still to this day can't help but think of someone who mists the air in a greenhouse when called "Mister".
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Old May 28 2013, 08:49 PM   #17
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Re: "Mister" Spock, Scott, Chekov and Sulu?

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I still to this day can't help but think of someone who mists the air in a greenhouse when called "Mister".
A machine that does that can be called a mister. Don't know about a person, though.
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Old May 28 2013, 09:20 PM   #18
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Re: "Mister" Spock, Scott, Chekov and Sulu?

When I was a kid I just thought "Mister" was a part of his name, like "Mr. T."
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Old May 29 2013, 11:22 AM   #19
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When I was a kid I just thought "Mister" was a part of his name, like "Mr. T."
I know what you mean ... When we were kids, we were joking about "Mister" being Spock's first name ...
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Old May 29 2013, 06:17 PM   #20
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When I was a kid I just thought "Mister" was a part of his name, like "Mr. T."
I know what you mean ... When we were kids, we were joking about "Mister" being Spock's first name ...
"First name 'Mistah'... middle name space... last name... 'SPOCK!'"
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Old May 29 2013, 06:22 PM   #21
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They call me Mister Tibbs!!!!
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Old June 1 2013, 10:11 PM   #22
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Re: "Mister" Spock, Scott, Chekov and Sulu?

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Based on current tradition then, Spock shouldn't have been called "Mister" at all and yet he always was.
Technically yes, but Spock's rank was kind of squishy for a while. Plus it had been "Mister Spock" clear back to the early drafts when he was a lieutenant, so it probably never occurred to anyone.

Still seems odd to me, when the rest of the crew called him "Mister Spock", especially lower ranked officers like Chekov and Kyle and Sulu. Hell, everybody called him "Mister Spock".

To have an ensign call a commander (XO no less) "Mister" seems inappropriate.
Well, maybe Starfleet's tradition was that all officers but the captain could be called "mister." If it's appropriate to address a lieutenant commander that way, being incorrect for the next grade up seems kind of arbitrary.
Was Riker ever called 'Mister Riker'?

Chakotay is less useful because it's less clear whether he's a Commander or Lieutenant Commander.
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Old June 6 2013, 04:07 PM   #23
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Still seems odd to me, when the rest of the crew called him "Mister Spock", especially lower ranked officers like Chekov and Kyle and Sulu. Hell, everybody called him "Mister Spock".
Spock even referred to himself as "Mister Spock."
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Old June 6 2013, 04:49 PM   #24
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Based on current tradition then, Spock shouldn't have been called "Mister" at all and yet he always was.
Technically yes, but Spock's rank was kind of squishy for a while. Plus it had been "Mister Spock" clear back to the early drafts when he was a lieutenant, so it probably never occurred to anyone.

Still seems odd to me, when the rest of the crew called him "Mister Spock", especially lower ranked officers like Chekov and Kyle and Sulu. Hell, everybody called him "Mister Spock".

To have an ensign call a commander (XO no less) "Mister" seems inappropriate.
Well, maybe Starfleet's tradition was that all officers but the captain could be called "mister." If it's appropriate to address a lieutenant commander that way, being incorrect for the next grade up seems kind of arbitrary.
Was Riker ever called 'Mister Riker'?
Yes, I believe he was called Mister Riker by the faux-Picard in "Allegiance".
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Old June 7 2013, 02:14 AM   #25
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He was also called Mister Riker at the end of "The Hunted".
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Old June 9 2013, 01:04 AM   #26
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Maybe a change in policy, there, for females? Because it was "Miss Uhura" a few times in TOS.
In the 80s, the term "Miss", and even "Mrs", were being phased out by the feminist "Ms". Calling Saavik "Mister" in ST II was taking that direction to its next level.
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Old June 9 2013, 02:57 AM   #27
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Maybe a change in policy, there, for females? Because it was "Miss Uhura" a few times in TOS.
In the 80s, the term "Miss", and even "Mrs", were being phased out by the feminist "Ms". Calling Saavik "Mister" in ST II was taking that direction to its next level.
I just finished re-watching "Balance of Terror" on CBS.com. In it, Kirk refers to Angela Martine as "Mister". So, it's been there in Trek from the beginning.
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Old June 9 2013, 03:09 AM   #28
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I just finished re-watching "Balance of Terror" on CBS.com. In it, Kirk refers to Angela Martine as "Mister". So, it's been there in Trek from the beginning.
I checked every instance of the word "Mister" appearing in the transcript of that episode. It isn't Kirk who calls Angela Martine "Mister"; it's her fiancé, Lt. Robert Tomlinson.

ROBERT: Happy wedding day, almost.

ANGELA: You won't get off my hook this easily. I'm going to marry you, Mister, battle or phaser weapons notwithstanding.

ROBERT: Well, meanwhile, temporarily at least, I am still your superior officer. So get with it, Mister.
He's clearly using "Mister" in a joking manner.

Also of interest is that Angela wears an ensign's uniform (no sleeve braid), which is consistent with Tomlinson being her superior officer. However, the Wiki entry for the episode lists her as "Lieutenant Angela Martine."


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Old June 9 2013, 04:13 AM   #29
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Re: "Mister" Spock, Scott, Chekov and Sulu?

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I just finished re-watching "Balance of Terror" on CBS.com. In it, Kirk refers to Angela Martine as "Mister". So, it's been there in Trek from the beginning.
I checked every instance of the word "Mister" appearing in the transcript of that episode. It isn't Kirk who calls Angela Martine "Mister"; it's her fiancé, Lt. Robert Tomlinson.

ROBERT: Happy wedding day, almost.

ANGELA: You won't get off my hook this easily. I'm going to marry you, Mister, battle or phaser weapons notwithstanding.

ROBERT: Well, meanwhile, temporarily at least, I am still your superior officer. So get with it, Mister.
He's clearly using "Mister" in a joking manner.
Argh, you're right, it wasn't Kirk that called her Mister, it was Tomlinson. But I don't necessarily see it as joking. He might have been lighthearted when he said it, but it sounded like any other time we've seen a superior officer say something like "get with it, Mister".
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Old June 9 2013, 04:34 AM   #30
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Although, other than Angela being referred to (possibly jokingly) as "mister," Numerous female officers have been referred to as "sir," instead of "ma'am." Janeway even addressed this by acknowledging that it is Starfleet etiquite to call women officers "sir," but she preferred simply "Captain." ("Ma'am will do in a crunch.")
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