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Old May 26 2013, 04:44 PM   #16
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Re: Do you think they could use the Borg in the next movie?

Please, no Borg. The Borg belong to TNG, first. There's no reason why they can't appear in the TOS world, but out of universe, they're TNG just as Q is.

They also stopped being novel when they had a queen. They went from mindless, relentless, unreasoning, unable to reason with beings who behaved like a plague of locusts to just another baddie led by an evil being. So what's new about that?

The other thing is this would be basically a war movie and more or less a remake of FC (in at least the same vein as those who think STID is just TWOK revisited).

One last point, after the anti-militarization-let-get-back-to-what-Starfleet's-primary-role-is-theme of STID, no big scale shoot-em up wars in III for me, please. Out of universe, it's a little cynical to have a story that says Starfleet is about exploration, so let's end with Kirk reminding folks of that as he starts his five year mission, but in reality, war sells, so -- . I think some kind of good action story can come from another direction and be just as whiz-bang. It only takes imagination.
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Old May 26 2013, 04:49 PM   #17
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Re: Do you think they could use the Borg in the next movie?

A Borg movie could be done as an exploration movie.
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Old May 26 2013, 04:52 PM   #18
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It could also be Trek's take on zombies. The Borg are pretty much zombies aren't they?
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Old May 26 2013, 04:54 PM   #19
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It could also be Trek's take on zombies. The Borg are pretty much zombies aren't they?
Yup.

That's why I think we may see the Borg next. Zombies sell tickets.
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Old May 26 2013, 05:12 PM   #20
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A Borg movie could be done as an exploration movie.
I suppose. The mystery of it all and such.

I dunno. In the back of my mind, the notion of the Borg strikes me as a kitschy, Superman-meets-the-Joker kind of thing, too. "Worlds are colliding, Jerry!" It would be as if they rebooted TNG and had Picard go against Khan.

However, they could have a long scene of the Enteprise flying through a Borg cube as an homage to flying through V'ger in TMP. The camera would cut to a close-up of a wide-eyed John Cho, taking it all in.
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Old May 26 2013, 05:14 PM   #21
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It could also be Trek's take on zombies. The Borg are pretty much zombies aren't they?
Yup.

That's why I think we may see the Borg next. Zombies sell tickets.
Not to pee in the punchbowl, but will they sell tickets in 2016? Or will be be vampired and zombied out by then?
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Old May 26 2013, 05:15 PM   #22
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It could also be Trek's take on zombies. The Borg are pretty much zombies aren't they?
Yup.

That's why I think we may see the Borg next. Zombies sell tickets.
Not to pee in the punchbowl, but will they sell tickets in 2016? Or will be be vampired and zombied out by then?
I don't know. We've been doing zombie movies for a long time and fans of the genre seem to keep coming back for more.
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The camera would cut to a close-up of a wide-eyed John Cho, taking it all in.

Will he say "Oh my!" ?
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Old May 26 2013, 05:26 PM   #24
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The camera would cut to a close-up of a wide-eyed John Cho, taking it all in.

Will he say "Oh my!" ?
Yes, and many fans will complain it was a mis-placed homage to Kirk's death in GEN and it took them right out of the moment. The movie was fine up until then.
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Old May 26 2013, 05:28 PM   #25
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The camera would cut to a close-up of a wide-eyed John Cho, taking it all in.

Will he say "Oh my!" ?
Yes, and many fans will complain it was a mis-placed homage to Kirk's death in GEN and it took them right out of the moment. The movie was fine up until then.

I look forward to the 78 page thread
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Old May 26 2013, 05:29 PM   #26
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I'm not sure how the Borg could be worked into the Abrams timeline.
Trelane.
No, I don't want any Q involved either. Leave them out of it. The Q would not work well with Kirk (any version).
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Old May 26 2013, 05:31 PM   #27
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The Q would not work well with Kirk (any version).
Trelane worked with Kirk just fine in The Squire of Gothos.
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Old May 26 2013, 05:34 PM   #28
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^ Yeah, and I'd rather see that than more space battles.
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Old May 26 2013, 05:57 PM   #29
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I never want to see the Borg again, thank you.
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Old May 26 2013, 06:28 PM   #30
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"Worlds are colliding, Jerry!"
If Reimagined Borg walks through this door, he will kill TNG Borg! A Borg, divided against itself, cannot stand!
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