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Old June 18 2013, 01:08 AM   #181
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Re: Was the reveal of the Enterprise-A a big surprise?

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No, it is very relevant. If a person can't be bothered to express themselves clearly, then that person has a problem, not others.
OTOH if someone can't grasp the concept that somebody can just be expressing an opinion even when they don't explicitly state "In my opinion..." (or lacks to reading comprehension ability to understand when this is being done) then that is their problem.

In my opinion, of course.
The thing about opinions is that they don't have to be remotely true. Some can even be total nonsense, but if it works for that person, then it's their thing.
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Old June 18 2013, 01:37 AM   #182
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The thing about opinions is that they don't have to be remotely true.
In fact, I'd argue that by their very nature, they aren't.
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Old June 18 2013, 01:45 AM   #183
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In fact, I'd argue that by their very nature, they aren't.
They can be rooted in truth, however. Well-founded opinions always have a basis in fact.

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Old June 18 2013, 01:46 AM   #184
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The thing about opinions is that they don't have to be remotely true.
In fact, I'd argue that by their very nature, they aren't.
Indeed, that's why it's important for people to see them as such.
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Old June 18 2013, 02:51 AM   #185
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Well at least we can agree on that.
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Old June 18 2013, 02:52 AM   #186
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Well at least we can agree on that.
And we're back to square one.

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Old June 18 2013, 10:15 AM   #187
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Well at least we can agree on that.
Earlier posts indicate that we don't at all.
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Old June 18 2013, 10:28 AM   #188
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That's not necessarily a bad thing, though.
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Old June 18 2013, 10:39 AM   #189
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Now that we agree on.
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Old June 22 2013, 08:33 PM   #190
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I loved the Starlog art contest about what the 1701-A should be. Lots of good designs.
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Old June 22 2013, 10:14 PM   #191
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Do you have a link to those ?
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Old June 29 2013, 08:30 PM   #192
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Not off hand Brian Pimenta did an angular version (He did an Antares).

Here was one of the entries--though it is dated here as 1989--I saw it earlier in Starlog.

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...-nx-1701-a.php
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Old July 11 2013, 10:45 PM   #193
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My pet theory was always that the Enterprise-A was built from 'spare parts' left over from the Constituion refit cycle, similar to the space shuttle Endeavour. It's based on nothing but supposition, of course. A pulled-from-mothballs Constitution about to be retired works too. I think we all know the Yorktown tale from Gene comes from the Enterprise originally being called Yorktown in his initial treatments.
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Old July 25 2013, 08:35 PM   #194
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The real star of Star Trek, at least TOS, at least to a 60's kid, was always the "classic Enterprise." (Constitution class)

Just like the real star of the American space program wasn't any of the individual astronauts, it was always the hardware...the Saturn V rocket + Apollo module + LM.

There's almost an Art Deco quality to classic Enterprise. I would analogize it to the Chrysler building. There are lots of other skyscrapers that are bigger, more modern, more bells and whistles, but there's only one Chrysler building.

What do we see in the opening credits of TOS?

Enterprise slowly transiting Vulcan--the "beauty" shot--Enterprise flashing back and forth to the theme music--the show is all about the Enterprise.

Who was the space chick that Kirk always carried his biggest torch for? Enterprise.
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Old July 25 2013, 10:01 PM   #195
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My pet theory was always that the Enterprise-A was built from 'spare parts' left over from the Constituion refit cycle, similar to the space shuttle Endeavour. It's based on nothing but supposition, of course. A pulled-from-mothballs Constitution about to be retired works too. I think we all know the Yorktown tale from Gene comes from the Enterprise originally being called Yorktown in his initial treatments.
I like this theory. Works well with the Enterprise-A being a glitchy mess in STV.
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