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Old June 19 2013, 05:54 PM   #31
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

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Without Facebook who knows maybe your friend would have texted you on your phone to see what you are doing, or perhaps even called you on your phone to see what you are doing.
Or maybe they could have arranged the whole thing through carrier pigeons, but it's not really the same thing, is it? People who don't like Facebook seem to purposefully ignore that every method of communication works differently, and is ideally suited to different purposes.
Still.. what he described we did regularly back in pre-social media times via text and simple phone calls but let's not overhype Facebook.. people are not more social nowadays because of Facebook, it's just more crap posted and much of it is meaningless crap anyway.
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Old June 19 2013, 05:59 PM   #32
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Could not agree any further.
Social networking - outside of posting on here because I'm a sci-fi fan - generally isn't interesting me because the only purpose for me to use it is to make money. And facebook IMO isn't a way to network with people and expand your contact base with business professionals.

Linkedin however I find useful in terms of networking with other business professionals and enbables me to make more money and be more effective at my job.
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Old June 19 2013, 09:16 PM   #33
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

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Without Facebook who knows maybe your friend would have texted you on your phone to see what you are doing, or perhaps even called you on your phone to see what you are doing.
Or maybe they could have arranged the whole thing through carrier pigeons, but it's not really the same thing, is it? People who don't like Facebook seem to purposefully ignore that every method of communication works differently, and is ideally suited to different purposes.
Still.. what he described we did regularly back in pre-social media times via text and simple phone calls but let's not overhype Facebook.. people are not more social nowadays because of Facebook, it's just more crap posted and much of it is meaningless crap anyway.
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Old June 20 2013, 09:56 AM   #34
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

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Could not agree any further.
Social networking - outside of posting on here because I'm a sci-fi fan - generally isn't interesting me because the only purpose for me to use it is to make money. And facebook IMO isn't a way to network with people and expand your contact base with business professionals.

Linkedin however I find useful in terms of networking with other business professionals and enbables me to make more money and be more effective at my job.
I've never needed either.

I had both Facebook and LinkedIn. Facebook seemed to be a complete waste of time. The people I would chat with I had on my Live Messenger, or SMS. And 90% of my "friends" were old coworkers or people from College that never talked to me at all (so why add me as a "friend" then?)

It seems to be a huge popularity contest that I could fucking care less about.

As for LinkedIn, I tried it and it seemed to be a waste of time for me as well. I've never needed to network to find work. Unfortunately very few people I know were in positions to help me further my career. Those who could help out usually weren't people I was close to in anyway.

In the end, I found LinkedIn was simply a security risk where tons of my private work history was up for grabs by anyone. So I ended up deleting both accounts permanently and never looked back.

I laugh at all the people facebooking on the bus on their iPhones and Blackberries. I either read ebooks or play games on my iPad, and find that far more entertaining.
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Old June 20 2013, 11:12 AM   #35
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

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Just in my personal life tonight:

A friend contacted me via Facebook to see what I was doing.

We met up at a bar, and we then used Facebook on our phones to get in touch with several other of our friends, who then met us at the same bar.

We then posted a couple pictures on Instrgram and shared them on Facebook because it was another friend's birthday. I ended up having a lot of fun.

Without Facebook, I would have stayed home tonight. Maybe done some laundry.
Without Facebook who knows maybe your friend would have texted you on your phone to see what you are doing, or perhaps even called you on your phone to see what you are doing.
I don't even have most of my friends' phone numbers. Facebook is the primary form of communication with certain people.
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Old June 20 2013, 12:53 PM   #36
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Does anyone remember Myspace?

It used to be THE social media website that anyone who was anyone had a Myspace.

Anyone...?
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Old June 20 2013, 01:14 PM   #37
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

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Does anyone remember Myspace?

It used to be THE social media website that anyone who was anyone had a Myspace.

Anyone...?
Everyone remembers MySpace, of course.

What you have to understand is that when MySpace was THE social media website, MySpace had 115 times less users than Facebook has now. Also: your phone didn't have a "MySpace" button. So we're not really talking about the same kind of phenomenon.
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Old June 20 2013, 07:46 PM   #38
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

And there used to be dozens of very popular search engines. Now we have Google. Eventually somebody wins.
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Old June 20 2013, 08:23 PM   #39
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

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Does anyone remember Myspace?

It used to be THE social media website that anyone who was anyone had a Myspace.

Anyone...?
Everyone remembers MySpace, of course.

What you have to understand is that when MySpace was THE social media website, MySpace had 115 times less users than Facebook has now. Also: your phone didn't have a "MySpace" button. So we're not really talking about the same kind of phenomenon.
Didn't the Music Industry get involved with Myspace the same way various corporations got involved with Facebook. While I didn't have a facebook account, if I wanted to listen to new music from an artist I really liked, I would go to their myspace page. Now we have Youtube, which I think killed Myspace for good.
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Old June 20 2013, 10:38 PM   #40
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Who cares? No I don't use Facebook. I never really cared to. From observing everyone around me who uses it, it's just a new medium to start fights with. If people want to use it, fine.. go ahead. If it's on the decline, oh well.

If you don't like Facebook, that's your right... but why exactly do people seem to be so invested in seeing it fail?
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Old June 20 2013, 10:40 PM   #41
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If you don't like Facebook, that's your right... but why exactly do people seem to be so invested in seeing it fail?
This is what I don't get. There are plenty of products and services in the world that I have no interest in using; doesn't mean I want them to die.
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Old June 20 2013, 11:25 PM   #42
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

I think it's pretty funny that people are leaving facebook because of drama. Cause it's the format that causes the drama and not the people using it. Especially drama.

I like facebook. I have a close extended family that I live far away from and it's a great way to stay in each other's lives. It's a handy way to keep up with things that old friends are doing. And by old friends I mean people you don't necessarily want to see but think fondly of and like to see what they are up to. I even enjoy the way I can keep up with celebrities and get updates from different businesses. I think it's matured but and different than it once was but it's a part of our lives in a way that the phone book used to be and I think it will be that way for the foreseeable future.
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Old June 23 2013, 08:59 AM   #43
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Re: So are we finally seeing the waning days of Facebook?

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If you don't like Facebook, that's your right... but why exactly do people seem to be so invested in seeing it fail?
This is what I don't get. There are plenty of products and services in the world that I have no interest in using; doesn't mean I want them to die.
I chalk it up to people hating what is popular and Mainstream. Look at music. There are probably many Nickelback fans, but you would be hardpressed to find them on the internet because of the extreme hatred they generate. Same thing with Facebook. It's the biggest thing online (Ok, maybe second biggest behind Twitter) and people love it when big things fail, at least online people.
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Old July 3 2013, 04:30 PM   #44
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This started happening a few years ago. I was tipped off by my teenage daugther who told me that while a lot of middleschoolers were still facebook (a lot of whom didn't have phones yet but had computer access at home) that most high-schoolers had migrated to twitter. The reason was that too many parents were on Facebook and kids don't want their parents to know what they are doing. Very few parents were and are on twitter.

With two kids in middle school I can also say that within the last year instagram has far surpassed facebook for that age. There are also a couple of other chat programs being used that I can't think of offhand. But basically, programs that you can use on your phone/tablet but aren't on the computer are preferred because parents aren't that tech savvy and are less likely to be on those social mediums.

Facebook has become a medium of older folks. I bet the median age has skyrocketed in the past 5 years . . . probably doubled (true ages though, not the fake ages a lot of kids were putting on their accounts).
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Old July 8 2013, 08:28 AM   #45
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I use Facebook to keep in touch with actual friends, organize events and parties. That's about it.
Yeah I got into facebook again for a while to organize media stuff, I have some friends who are film makers, do the whole improv comedy thing, or music and some who do DJ stuff or animation. There were a whole bunch of us who did some music when we were younger and we network years later. Now we would meet up, go to conventions, make short films, they could be doing something on country music or hiphop or a movie or whatever. It wasn't really work for me just a hobby, I have other work going and for me this improv comedy or film or DJ stuff was just an outlet where I'd hang out with friends, a social creative past time and hobby. I wasn't really too into the music so much or comedy or into art business but kinda became something of an art promoter for a social night once a month or I might do something for a charity event. The whole networking social thing kicked off pretty quick, one day I had say 20 facebook friends and within a few months maybe weeks you have 200 and I wasn't even looking for friends, they just add you.

Anyway I found the place to become as useless as myspace or friendster. Facebook if you allow yourself to become part of these networks then it has way too much spam, the people there are not friendly they all want to sell you some crap or want you to do under-paid work for their benefit, it becomes Stalkbook, Stalkerbook or Spambook. It can be ok if you are careful with it but I probably added too many acquaintance and not real close friends. So my name is out there now and when this happens you get a lot of buying messages, brands, swap, selling or some idiot trying to promote their horrible music.

There is also a hell of a lot of time wasting and gossip on facebook, so many spammers, sleazy guys and stupid women have ruined it. You have to be very careful about foreign regions, I hear a whole city in Dhaka Bangladesh had thousands of their accounts hacked so you have to be real careful networking with anyone from South Asia because they are probably robot spammers and so many even in real-life spam and are trying to promote a political agenda. Once your name is out there and you accept friend requests from musicians and so on you spend too much time looking at all these stupid messages. Facebook overall has way too much drama, much gossip, people being bitchy, general negativity and conflict. I found some of the online stupidity very regionalized, people from L.A generally use it as a party dating site and can be very crazy or very selfish, the arty film making and DJ crowd can be bitchy and full of drama, no matter where they live its just something that follows musicians around. With a hundred 'acquaintances' this social circle you can log on check out that rolling wall of text and see all kinds of stupid drama, who is getting a divorce from who, which person posting stupid jokes, which person is being creppy today, someone posting LOLCATS again, which cheaters are caught in some location with the pix on their profile, a person using it as a personal blog and talking about what they ate for breakfast, a person taking about the dog vomiting in their bed...yuck, a person talking about their sexual habbits....yuck, which person is starting a controversial political debate, who had an affair with who.

If I were to start again I would erase my account and only use it to keep in touch with very old friends, mom, aunts, uncles or old friends who have moved away to Canada, France, Brazil and Australia. Or maybe if I got back into this film and music business again I would delete my name and start a promoting account so my personal account doesn't see any of the personal gossip drama.


I'm not sure Twitter or whatever is the answer, I think some people are just naturally gossipy, or stupid and drama will follow them around no matter what online social media they move to


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