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Old May 26 2013, 04:28 PM   #331
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Re: Did Abrams really save the franchise?

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There hasn't been new Beatles music since 1970, but someone is maintaining and overseeing the copyright over their music.
And in a noteworthy coincidence, "Got to Get You into My Life" came on the radio as I was reading that sentence....

Over the decades I think its safe to say Star Trek has enjoyed a longer period of broad awareness than The Beatles' music.
...then ya lost me. But I was gratified to see others rise to the defense of one of the greatest pop-cultural phenomena in living memory....

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Musical performers and actors are something different as they cant produce new material once they're gone.
Have to bring up the Anthology phenomenon of the mid-nineties here. The Beatles sold more discs in 1996 than they did in any year of the sixties. When the Anthology 1 double-CD outsold a contemporary Rolling Stones live album, one reviewer memorably wrote (quoted from memory), "The Beatles are still outselling the Stones, and this time they didn't even have to get out of bed to do it." The Stones and other bands of their generation were quick to jump on the bandwagon, hastily dusting off unreleased material in their own vaults.

Also going back to the 90s, when VH-1 was doing their endless series of "Behind the Music" specials, it was a common cliché that everybody under the sun had to be compared favorably to the Beatles at some point. It says something about their lasting impact that in their own field, no other musical act has replaced them as the standard to which others compare themselves....
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Old May 26 2013, 04:29 PM   #332
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Re: Did Abrams really save the franchise?

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I don't have to like Abrams' work to look at and discuss this issue. Your insinuation is that unless I'm a fan then I can't discuss it or be taken seriously. I can just as easily charge someone with blind bias for being a fan so it cuts two ways.
When you write this in the very first post:

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JJ didn’t save a damned thing.
It tells me it's not something you really want debated.

I'm not privy to sales figures and trends, so I don't know how "dead" Star Trek was in 2007 when it was announced Abrams had taken the reins.

I answered "I don't know". I answered your question honestly. Did you?
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Old May 26 2013, 04:50 PM   #333
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Re: Did Abrams really save the franchise?

I think this discussion had run its course. To avoid the nastiness of it becoming more personal, I'm going to close the thread. I believe all sides have had their say.
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