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Old May 29 2013, 11:17 PM   #1
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Durability (spoilers)

Khan brushed off blasts from Kirk like they were nothing and held his own against Spock.

Do you think Data or Lore could one-shot him?
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Old May 29 2013, 11:24 PM   #2
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Re: Durability (spoiler)

Data, yup. Lore, nope.
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Old May 29 2013, 11:25 PM   #3
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Why not Lore?
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Old May 29 2013, 11:30 PM   #4
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Because Lore had a Type-L phase discriminator, and Data's was Type-R.
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Old May 29 2013, 11:33 PM   #5
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I don't think that determined their strength level.
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Old May 29 2013, 11:38 PM   #6
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How do you know? Clearly the type-R phase discriminator is superior to the type-L, since it's why Lore was bad and Data was good.
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Old May 29 2013, 11:46 PM   #7
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Re: Durability (spoilers)

If Spock can beat Khan in a fight, then Data surely could, since Data is probably the strongest regular Trek character ever.
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Old May 29 2013, 11:57 PM   #8
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Re: Durability (spoilers)

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If Spock can beat Khan in a fight, then Data surely could, since Data is probably the strongest regular Trek character ever.
Obviously, Data could beat Khan in a fight. What I wanted to know is if Data or Lore could KO Khan with one hit.
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Old May 30 2013, 12:10 AM   #9
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Again, Data could, but Lore couldn't. Those type-Ls are just shoddy. Lore would need two punches.
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Old May 30 2013, 12:26 AM   #10
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Re: Durability (spoilers)

In TOS, Khan claimed to have five times Kirk's strength. Data had ten times human strength.
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Old May 30 2013, 12:29 AM   #11
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But how many times human strength did Kirk have?
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Old May 30 2013, 12:30 AM   #12
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Re: Durability (spoilers)

Yes, I think Data could take down Khan with one hit. If he goes for the head. Data could crush Khan's head just like Khan crushed Marcus'.
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Old May 30 2013, 12:32 AM   #13
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What if Khan's skull is stronger than a normal human skull?
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Old May 30 2013, 12:50 AM   #14
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But how many times human strength did Kirk have?
Irrelevant. Kirk has twenty six point nine three times the average human heart.
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Old May 30 2013, 01:00 AM   #15
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What if Khan's skull is stronger than a normal human skull?
I don't think it is. Khan's bone structure is probably the same as any of us. He is, after all, still a human being.

If an Augment's bones were that much stronger, it wouldn't be so easy to kill one by having a piece of bulkhead fall on them, like with Joachim on the Reliant bridge.
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