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Old May 24 2013, 11:41 PM   #91
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Re: Star Trek III - The [Speculation Begins] (Spoilers)

5 Year missiony stuff next movie, with a relationship for Kirk and Carol.

Spock Prime major subplot showing New Vulcan, concluding the characters arc.

Followed by :

A Klingon-centric movie.

A Giant Cream Horn / Commodore Decker

Khan back in Trek 4, 5 or even 6.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:26 AM   #92
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If they intend to use Trek lore, then have Kirk encounter the Borg. I always wander how Kirk would have handled them. Maybe since Nero's ship had borg tech, the borg detected it and are now heading towards the federation.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:41 AM   #93
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Romulans and Borg team up to defeat Kirk, because if they can they can bring down Starfleet, but old Spock devises a way to go into the oncoming Nexus to bring back old Kirk to fight with young Kirk since he is the only one familiar with the Nexus.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:57 AM   #94
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You don't need a villain to make a good story.
You pretty much do, to make a summer blockbuster.
I don't agree, and I think there've been plenty of successful movies without a villain.

They can launch into a war between the Feds and the Klingons, and have them forced to join forces to repel the Borg. Why not?
I actually like this idea a lot.
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Old May 25 2013, 01:01 AM   #95
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I don't agree, and I think there've been plenty of successful movies without a villain.
There have been plenty of successful movies without a villain. There have not been many (any?) summer blockbuster without a villain.

Even TVH had an antagonist.
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Old May 25 2013, 01:18 AM   #96
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The choice is clear. They revived that one tribble so the next movie will be about the great tribble hunt.
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Old May 25 2013, 01:26 AM   #97
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The choice is clear. They revived that one tribble so the next movie will be about the great tribble hunt.
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Old May 25 2013, 03:09 AM   #98
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I think it's interesting what Bob Orci says in this interview on Startrek.com. In particular this line caught my eye:

Star Trek III was the most contemplative and downbeat of the original cast films, and we say that in a good way. Given the marketplace these days, could a third Star Trek film from the Bad Robot team in any way resemble The Search for Spock?

ORCI: I hope that, in a certain way, we’ve earned the right to get a little bit crazy and maybe go more sci-fi? I’m going to flip this interview on you. What do you think?
Full interview here:
http://www.startrek.com/article/excl...arkness-part-2
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Old May 25 2013, 03:48 AM   #99
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What I would do:
Starfleet and Klingons get into a war.
But the Organians in this universe are Not Nice. This time they are going to exterminate both races unless Kirk, Kor and Khan (who along with Carol Marcus) can figure out a way to stop this.
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Old May 25 2013, 04:13 AM   #100
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It was a year between the Kronos incident and the end of the movie. If the Klingons hadn't started a war in that time, the incident was likely taken care of through backdoor diplomatic channels.
I hadn't even thought about that, but you're right. Good catch.

I wonder if Starfleet had to give something up to the Klingons to maintain the Cold War status quo after Kirk and Khan destroyed one of their ships and killed a patrol. You could almost imagine something like the Augment/Klingon virus arc on Enterprise where Section 31 or Starfleet itself quietly makes a back door deal to give the Klingons Augment DNA to prevent a war. The Klingons don't like how easily their warriors were defeated so they want the Augment DNA to create supersoldiers.
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Old May 25 2013, 05:13 AM   #101
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They can launch into a war between the Feds and the Klingons, and have them forced to join forces to repel the Borg. Why not?
I actually like this idea a lot.

They're sure lining it up for a war with the Klingons. Such a war would not be short--but a movie needs it resolved by the end. So the idea of an interlocking party, whether Borg or Romulan, uniting the Feds and Klingons does sound good.

Face it, what we really need is a damn tv show for the five year mission with movies of the "big missions."
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Old May 25 2013, 06:46 AM   #102
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I'd like to see, pretty much regardless of the plot, it be set in deep space. Given that the 5 year mission is now underway and the last two films heavily featured earth, I think a change of setting would be good. It's not a slam on 09/Into Darkness, I liked both and certainly I understand that for nabbing new viewers, using Earth helps to keep it somewhat grounded.

As for the plot - I could see some sort of Balance of Terror take, perhaps subbing Romulans for Klingons.
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Old May 25 2013, 06:49 AM   #103
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NuBorg cube is a donut.
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Old May 25 2013, 06:51 AM   #104
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No its Star Trek III: The Search for ISK
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Old May 25 2013, 10:56 AM   #105
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I think Half in the Bag called this one - they're going for the most recognizable franchise villains Trek has. They just did Khan, next up is "the Borg."

I'll bet 50,000 Quatloos on it.
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