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Old August 11 2013, 11:41 AM   #466
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"Way of the Warrior" etc. on DS9. Although JJverse Klingons would eat those Klingons for breakfast.
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Old August 11 2013, 07:21 PM   #467
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Literally!

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Old August 14 2013, 05:38 PM   #468
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I'm going to call it now: it's going to be a remake of "The Doomsday Machine" in some form, crossed with "Errand of Mercy." Maybe with the latter as the primary story and the former as the ancillary - the Klingons are trying to get their hands on the flying cornucopia and are trying to use it against the Federation.
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Old August 14 2013, 05:53 PM   #469
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Might be good. Like the Borg, it's like a force of nature, and likely started its journey long before the time split. I agree that it's probably still floating around out there, gobbling up planets and heading in the general direction of core Federation worlds.
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Old August 14 2013, 06:01 PM   #470
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I actually kind of like it myself. You could even include Decker and the Constellation, but here the reason for their presence is to fight the Klingons. Maybe Decker is the one who rams the Constellation down the Planet Killer's maw this time.

My one lingering question: Organians, or no?
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Old August 14 2013, 07:34 PM   #471
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Don't know if they could be reasonably meshed with the story of the Planet Killer, unless they become some Deus ex Machina (sans Machina) solution to the insurmountable problem of what to do with the thing, and I fear that might be a cop-out, following along the path of NuBSG, with everyone boiling it all down to blaming it on God. I do like the concept of the Organians, but I don't know if it will work with any other plot device.

OTOH, playing devil's advocate, a part of me also thinks we should generally part ways with TOS-sourced material and let this new crew find different things to discover. We had Khan recently and the Origin Story before that. It may be time to explore new horizons.
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Old August 14 2013, 07:42 PM   #472
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Oh, totally agreed. I just don't see this new story being original... and even if it is, I think it will at least have window dressings of previous stories.

As for the Planet Killer/Klingon conflict storyline, I say nay to the Organians.
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If they had just Klingons with no PK, I could see the Organians appearing at the end, imposing their will, but with some new twist. All 3 elements, however, I think would likely be a muddy mess.
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That too. Mostly, I just hate deus ex machina.
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Old August 14 2013, 09:17 PM   #476
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Nerds horribly murdering the writers and burning down their offices?
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There's a joke in there somewhere. How many nerds does it take to burn down an office building?
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Well played.
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