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Old May 31 2013, 01:30 AM   #46
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Smart decision, NBC!
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Old May 31 2013, 02:55 AM   #47
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Shocking.

I just hope when it gets canceled next year that Amazon still will want it and that it doesn't get screwed over.

It might be like Southland or Cougar Town where it's better off on cable / online after a network cancelation.
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Old May 31 2013, 04:30 AM   #48
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Still giving it a chance... it is an odd show to be sure, and just a bit too slowly paced for my liking at times. But interesting just enough to keep me tuning in.
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Old May 31 2013, 05:21 AM   #49
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I'm surprised. I expected it to get canceled. I guess it's critical acclaim got it renewed because the ratings suck. I guess another reason for the renewal is that it's an international co-production so NBC only pays for part of it so it's somewhat cheap for them.
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Old May 31 2013, 11:23 AM   #50
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I'm surprised. I expected it to get canceled. I guess it's critical acclaim got it renewed because the ratings suck. I guess another reason for the renewal is that it's an international co-production so NBC only pays for part of it so it's somewhat cheap for them.
Nielsen ratings are rubbish anyway and have been outdated for ages.

Though it has struggled in the ratings on Thursday nights, where last week it did a 1.0 rating in adults 18-49 and about 2.7 million viewers overall, it has been an especially strong performer in DVR playback. Also, with a median age of 45.6, it is the youngest-skewing drama on ABC, CBS or NBC.


“We’re so proud of Bryan’s vision for a show that is richly textured, psychologically complex, and very compelling,” NBC Entertainment President Jennifer Salke said. “There are many great stories still to be told.”
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Old May 31 2013, 04:15 PM   #51
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Blah blah blah, the rating system sucks.

Well too damn bad the rating system sucks, that's how the networks make money, so that's what they follow.

Within 10 years ratings won't matter at all because cable will be replaced by apps.
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Old June 1 2013, 09:53 PM   #52
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Nielsen ratings are rubbish anyway and have been outdated for ages.
This isn't really true, especially now that Nielsen incorporates DVR / "day after" data, and will be including streaming data in its numbers beginning with the fall television season. Just because you don't sample all 300 million American TV owners (or whatever the number is) doesn't mean they aren't getting statistically significant and reliable data.

This is where demographics come in, and why the entire concept of "industry averages" is bullshit.

For example ... pears and Skittles are both products in the food industry. Can you argue with a straight face that the engagement of Skittles and Del Monte canned pears will be at all comparable?

Nowhere, USA Credit Union and Rich People Inc. Hedge Fund are both in the financial services vertical. One serves a small town of 300 people, and helps out the people who would otherwise stuff their cash under their mattress. The other serves only people with boatloads of funbucks. Are their website traffic, or email list performance, going to be even close to the same? No, not at all.

So, Nielsen provides a very effective and very useful service for the television industry, because every channel has a different target. The CW is very clearly targeting a different audience than CBS is, and NBC has spent a lot of time and investment in targeting an audience of its own (whether or not they've done it well is open to debate).

There's a lot more to the whole picture than "this number was below X, therefore it was bad," and while some small aspects of Nielsen's methodology should be revised, the system is not broken in any way, especially when you consider that DVR services like TiVo sell their timeshifting data with the networks, and the networks themselves can see how many people are streaming content on their own websites. Nielsen is only one piece of the puzzle, which a lot of people fail to realize.
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Old June 2 2013, 09:19 PM   #53
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It is a great program, mixing up elements of the original to keep folks guessing, while adding lines we all remember.

I want to see this Hannibal have a dream where he meets Brian Cox (Manhunter) Hopkins, Tom Noonan and Ian Holm--judging him or a fellow character worthy of some development.
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Old June 2 2013, 09:28 PM   #54
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The thing about Neilsen Ratings is that I'm not convinced the people who would agree to have a Neilsen Box are a representative sample of the population.

They will become more meaningful in the fall when they start including streaming data.
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Old June 14 2013, 05:20 PM   #55
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Oh wow!!! That was Ellen Muth last night?!

Are they screwing the order of episodes btw?
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Old June 15 2013, 05:16 AM   #56
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No, apart from the one they skipped, everything's been aired in the proper order.
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Old June 15 2013, 07:33 AM   #57
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Imdb says that she's in three episodes.

How come I didn't recognize her till tonight either?

Weird.

OH!

10, 12 and 13.

I fell asleep during 10 and couldn't be bothered rewinding the bugger.

You get one chance with me.
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Old June 15 2013, 08:54 AM   #58
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I want to see this Hannibal have a dream where he meets Brian Cox (Manhunter) Hopkins, Tom Noonan and Ian Holm--judging him or a fellow character worthy of some development.
No doubt I'm missing something obvious, but what does Ian Holm have to do with Lecter?
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Old June 15 2013, 01:52 PM   #59
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No idea; he hasn't appeared in any of the films.
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Old June 22 2013, 09:15 PM   #60
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No but he was great as Ash in Alien, and that counts for something.

My favorite character in the series was Tobais
http://hannibal.wikia.com/wiki/Tobias_Budge
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