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Old May 27 2014, 01:53 AM   #196
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I love the artistry and poetry and sense of style of the show, but there are times where I wonder how long the episodes would actually last if you removed all the flashbacks, hallucinations, dream sequences, gruesome corpse art, long serious stares, poetic monologuing, and oily ManDeerPig shots. It would probably be about twenty minutes of actual stuff happening.

Normally that wouldn't bother me, because it's all part of the creepy yet simultaneously refined atmosphere of the show, but in the case of the finale, I would have liked to see more time devoted to a better set up for the final confrontation than just having everyone suddenly become incompetent again to put them in Hannibal's house without backup when they all knew what was going to happen.
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Old May 29 2014, 04:22 PM   #197
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I love the artistry and poetry and sense of style of the show, but there are times where I wonder how long the episodes would actually last if you removed all the flashbacks, hallucinations, dream sequences, gruesome corpse art, long serious stares, poetic monologuing, and oily ManDeerPig shots. It would probably be about twenty minutes of actual stuff happening.

Normally that wouldn't bother me, because it's all part of the creepy yet simultaneously refined atmosphere of the show, but in the case of the finale, I would have liked to see more time devoted to a better set up for the final confrontation than just having everyone suddenly become incompetent again to put them in Hannibal's house without backup when they all knew what was going to happen.
I absolutely love the show, but I totally agree with this.

As I was watching the finale, I was getting fed up with the dream-like imagery and all of the artful visuals. I understand the show's visual nature is a hallmark of the show, and I would never want the showrunners to homogenize the program, but in the case of the finale, I was waiting impatiently for things to happen.

I think Fuller and the writers might have shot themselves in the foot with the prologue fight sequence that began the first episode of the second season. Once I knew we would return to that in the finale, I was just bidding time waiting for the show to return to that point. Normally, I'm a big fan of the imagery, the hallucinations, the artful visual metaphors and all of that jazz, but here I wanted the show to just get to the point. As I was talking to my boyfriend about it, I don't think the episode actually got interesting until the final 20-30 minutes - everything leading up to that, while interesting, seemed to deliberately weigh down the pacing when the exact opposite should have been the case.

Regardless, I did enjoy season 2 as a whole very much. I think the Verger sub-plot was my favorite part of the season. In particular, Michael Pitt as Mason Verger stole the show and I hope we see him again soon. However, I did like Will and Hannibal's cat and mouse game - at least from a certain perspective - and how Will was constantly trying to deceive Hannibal into believing he was "his man". That made for some compelling drama and honestly I'd take that over the "killer of the week" storylines we saw in season 1 and for some of season 2. Season 3 will be interesting from what I've heard via Bryan Fuller. Taking the storylines from Hannibal (the novel) and Hannibal Rising and meshing them into one season will be interesting to say the least. Especially since Fuller said they don't intend to adapt the books in sequential order. He seemed to confirm we'd see Francis Dolarhyde next season, which makes me think the second half of Season 3 will be a loose adaptation of Red Dragon.

I'm just happy the show is actually coming back for Season 3. In a strange way, I could totally see the Season 2 finale acting as a series finale for the show. It would be immensely frustrating, but I could have seen it working. Apparently, according to Fuller, the Season 3 premiere will almost act as a pilot for a brand-new show. While that worries me a tad, it also excites me. As much as I love the show, the "formula" was getting a little old. So I'm intrigued to see how Fuller shakes things up for the next season.
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Old June 1 2014, 10:32 PM   #198
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Oh god. These are pitch perfect:

https://twitter.com/ZooHannibal

Thanx for that one.

Du Maurier..now why is that name familiar...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Du_Maurier

Oh well, we pretty much see her as Clarice in moving on with Hannibal--this time, not an amputee.
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Old June 14 2014, 04:32 AM   #199
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The second season was better than the first. I loved it, from the artful visuals (a real highlight of the show indeed) to seeing Will Graham incarcerated, Hannibal Lecter style. Seeing him turn into a killer was quite a turn. They're really taking some liberties there, I thought. I didn't suspect it was a ruse. Then there's the ending. With a bloodbath like that, I expected Will to wake up, revealing that it was a dream. Before reading that interview posted above, my hope was that everyone would make it but now I'm guessing that either Alana or Abigail (or both) don't make it.

So, they have a 7-season plan do they? I figured on 4 or 5. I really hope they can get this Clarice Starling business cleared up. It'd be a real shame if they had to move forward without her. I'm somewhat confident that they will clear it up. And I'm even more confident that the show will run the course. It's got the support of Netflix, where I just watched the entire season in 4 days. I was surprised that they put it up so soon. This is how I'll watch it from now on.
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Old June 14 2014, 04:49 AM   #200
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So, they have a 7-season plan do they? I figured on 4 or 5. I really hope they can get this Clarice Starling business cleared up. It'd be a real shame if they had to move forward without her. I'm somewhat confident that they will clear it up. And I'm even more confident that the show will run the course. It's got the support of Netflix, where I just watched the entire season in 4 days. I was surprised that they put it up so soon. This is how I'll watch it from now on.
It's a six season plan now. Instead of season 3 being the manhunt and season 6 being Hannibal, it sounds like Fuller will be merging the two ideas together.
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Old June 24 2014, 02:24 AM   #201
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So long as it keeps it's edge, the more the better imo.
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Old June 26 2014, 04:41 PM   #202
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So, they have a 7-season plan do they? I figured on 4 or 5. I really hope they can get this Clarice Starling business cleared up. It'd be a real shame if they had to move forward without her. I'm somewhat confident that they will clear it up. And I'm even more confident that the show will run the course. It's got the support of Netflix, where I just watched the entire season in 4 days. I was surprised that they put it up so soon. This is how I'll watch it from now on.
As Aragorn said, the plan is now for six seasons and I could see Fuller changing that so it might even be five seasons depending on how much they squeeze into Season 3. Which I think is a good idea. Look at Breaking Bad, which ran for five seasons and I feel like that show ended on a high note. Shows often feel like they've run their course after six or seven seasons so I'm glad Fuller re-thought his plan. Although I'm sure seven seasons would have been a great run for this show given how immensely good it is.

Fuller also mentioned that if they can't resolve the rights issue with the Clarice Starling character then Fuller will create a brand-new character that resembles Starling but has a different name. They did the same for Cynthia Nixon's character. They were originally going to call her Paula Krendler (after Paul Krendler from The Silence of the Lambs; Ray Liotta played him in Hannibal) but given the rights issue they had to re-name her character, even though she serves the same purpose as Krendler from the books. I think Anna Chlumsky's character Miriam Lass could play the same role Starling did whenever they get to The Silence of the Lambs, but I trust Fuller knows what he's doing.
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Old June 26 2014, 05:07 PM   #203
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Fuller also mentioned that if they can't resolve the rights issue with the Clarice Starling character then Fuller will create a brand-new character that resembles Starling but has a different name. They did the same for Cynthia Nixon's character. They were originally going to call her Paula Krendler (after Paul Krendler from The Silence of the Lambs; Ray Liotta played him in Hannibal) but given the rights issue they had to re-name her character, even though she serves the same purpose as Krendler from the books. I think Anna Chlumsky's character Miriam Lass could play the same role Starling did whenever they get to The Silence of the Lambs, but I trust Fuller knows what he's doing.
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Old August 1 2014, 06:19 PM   #204
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In case anyone's interested in the music of Hannibal on September 2 Lakeshore Records is releasing four (yes 4) soundtracks for the tv series. That's 2 for each of the two seasons so far.
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Old September 11 2014, 07:05 PM   #205
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Hannibal Season 3: Gillian Anderson Is a Full-Fledged Series Regular
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Old September 11 2014, 11:08 PM   #206
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Very welcome news. I love how measured her performance is on this show -- every gesture and movement seems so calculated and precise. I find myself a little mesmerized by her whenever she's on the screen.

More Gillian Anderson is always a good thing.
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Old December 20 2014, 06:39 AM   #207
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Michael Pitt Out, Joe Anderson In as Mason Verger
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Old December 21 2014, 09:32 PM   #208
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I. can't. wait.
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