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Old August 7 2014, 01:25 AM   #1411
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Re: Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription

I agree, the FC, Dominion War and BOBW kitbashes would be on the list, as well as the Daedelus.
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Old August 7 2014, 02:22 AM   #1412
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So, lets work it out.

We have (for Feddy/Starfleet ships):

Released:

-01: USS Enterprise-D Galaxy Class
-02: USS Enterprise 1701 Refit
-03: Enterprise NX-01
-04: USS Voyager
-05: USS Excelsior
-06: USS Reliant Miranda Class
-07: USS Defiant
-08: USS Enterprise (Alt Reality)
-09: USS Thunderchild Akira Class
-10: USS Equinox
-11: USS Dauntless (Was seen as part of the Fed fleet at Battle of Procyon V in Ent: Azati Prime)
-12: USS Stargazer Constellation Class
-13: USS Enterprise-E Sovereign Class
-14: USS Honshu Nebula Class
-15: USS Prometheus
-16: Anti Time Future Enterprise-D Galaxy X/Dreadnaught whatever class

Upcoming (confirmed)

-17: USS Orinoco (Runabout) Danube Class
-18: Oberth Class
-19 Delta Flyer
-20: USS Enterprise-B - Excelsior Refit Class
-21: USS Enterprise-C Ambassador Class
-22?: USS Enterprise (No bloody A, B, C or D (or E)). Constitution class.
-23: USS Enterprise-A
-24: USS Enterprise-J (thus completing the promised all Enterprises)

That leaves us with this wish list:

-25: Sabre Class
-26: Steamrunner Class
-27: Norway Class (To complete the FC ships)
-28: New Orleans Class
-29: Freedom Class
-30: Niagara Class
-31: Cheyenne Class (to round out the newly created Wolf 369 ships - not counting study models)
-32 Centaur Class
-33 Curry Class? (The rest of the DS9 models are pretty rough kitbashes with ostentatious paintjobs. I can live without them)
-34: USS Relativity
-35: Phoenix Warp ship?
-35: NX-Alpha
-36: USS Pasteur Olympic Class
-37: USS Jenolan Sydney Class
-38: Daedalus Class
-39: Federation Fighter
-40: Federation Scout
-41: Federation Holoship
-42: Executive Shuttle?
-43: Transfer pod/Work Bee combo pack? :P
-44: USS Cousteau Captains Yacht?
-45: Speedboat Shuttle
-46: Type 7 Shuttle?
-47: Type 6 Shuttle?
-48 Chaffee Shuttle
-49: Galileo Shuttle
-50: Enterprise-Intepid
-51: Enterprise-Warp Delta
-52: Enterprise-Conestoga
-53: Enterprise - that weird horseshoe shaped one whose name escapes me at 2:11am
-54: Enterprise- Shuttlepod
-55: Enterprise- ECS Fortunate/ECS Horizon?
-56: Soyuz Class
-57: Saratoga
-58: Alt Nebula class with Sutherland mission pod?
-59: Vesta Class
-60: NX-01 Refit.

Right. Thats all the federation/starfleet ships I could think of. Really scraped the barrel there too and got 60 ships out of a possible 90. That leaves 30 Enemy ships, of which we have...

-01: Klingon Bird of Prey
-02: Romulan Warbird
-03: Klingon K'Tinga
-04: Klingon Vor'cha
-05: Klingon ENT BOP
-06: Bajoran Solar Sailor
-07: Cardassian Galor
-08: Cardassian Hideki.
-09: Jem Hadar Attack Cruiser
-10 Jem Hadar Attack Ship
-11: Ferengi Marauder
-12: Borg Sphere
-13: Borg Cube
-14: Krenim Temporal Weapon Ship
-15: Xindi Insectoid Ship
-16: ENT Tholian Ship
-17: ENT Romulan BOP
-18: Maquis Fighter
-19: Nausicaan Fighter
-20: Vulcan Surok Class
-21: Andorian Cruiser
-22: Romulan Drone
-23: Romulan Valdore

That leaves us with....7, empty slots for Alien ships? Yeah, I don't think thats gonna happen. Maybe strike 15 out of the wishlist for federation ships then. That could be a plausible list then imo.

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Old August 7 2014, 02:31 PM   #1413
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Re: Star Trek: Starships Model/Magazine Subscription

And got the Tholian webspinner today
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Old August 7 2014, 03:31 PM   #1414
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I for one would love to see them expand into some special versions of existing subjects-

The Refit from ST3 with self destruct damage
The Reliant after the battle in the Mutara Nebula (missing the nacelle and wrecked pod)
Enterprise D Saucer after making planetfall in Generations
NX-01 from the Xindi Arc showing hull damage
NX-01 from 'E2' showing the alien tech retrofits
Voyager with deployed Armor from 'Endgame'


Just a wish list, doubt any will see the light of day...
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Old August 7 2014, 04:31 PM   #1415
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Richard Baker wrote: View Post
I for one would love to see them expand into some special versions of existing subjects-

The Refit from ST3 with self destruct damage
The Reliant after the battle in the Mutara Nebula (missing the nacelle and wrecked pod)
Enterprise D Saucer after making planetfall in Generations
NX-01 from the Xindi Arc showing hull damage
NX-01 from 'E2' showing the alien tech retrofits
Voyager with deployed Armor from 'Endgame'


Just a wish list, doubt any will see the light of day...
To be honest, I'd be disappointed if they released these as part of the standard line. It seems that most companies that get the rights to release model ships end up releasing a handful of ships and then just repaint those to get dozens of releases (Johnny Lightning and Hot Wheels, for example).

IMO, the nice thing about the Eaglemoss collection is that we're getting completely new ships every time. If they wanted to do some repaints/damaged models, I think those would be great candidates for the free subscriber gifts, special releases, or just released at the end of the series.
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Old August 7 2014, 07:34 PM   #1416
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I was thinking of the damages ones as being special versions, not part of the standard fleet ships, along the lines of the AGT D and DS-9.
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Old August 7 2014, 08:24 PM   #1417
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I was thinking of the damages ones as being special versions, not part of the standard fleet ships, along the lines of the AGT D and DS-9.
Gotcha, I'd agree with that 100% (that's what I was trying to get at in my last paragraph). The battled damage and repaint models, if done right, could be really cool. The JL damaged Enterprise-A, where the model itself was missing pieces, so it was more than just a repaint.
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Old August 7 2014, 09:24 PM   #1418
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All the examples I came up with would involve reworking the hull to show gaping holes and exposed hardware- the only real exception would be the D Saucer which could be made larger since you would not have to allow room for the stardrive section. The Johnny Lightning repaints were too simplistic- just adding grime does not duplicate the damage. I was looking at my Akira the other day and thinking what Eaglemoss could do with that concept seeing the level of detail they produce.

Another ship- the USS Constellation from 'The Doomsday Machine' (TOS-R version since it looks cooler that the melted model kit used in the original show)
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Old August 7 2014, 10:11 PM   #1419
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Richard Baker wrote: View Post
I for one would love to see them expand into some special versions of existing subjects-

The Refit from ST3 with self destruct damage
The Reliant after the battle in the Mutara Nebula (missing the nacelle and wrecked pod)
Enterprise D Saucer after making planetfall in Generations
NX-01 from the Xindi Arc showing hull damage
NX-01 from 'E2' showing the alien tech retrofits
Voyager with deployed Armor from 'Endgame'


Just a wish list, doubt any will see the light of day...
There was talk at somepoint though of the Voyager-with-Endgame-armour, so I imagine that's the most likely of those
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Old August 8 2014, 06:53 PM   #1420
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Well I've just had issue 26 the tholian ship and its the 1st time I've been disappointed in the model not the best standards this time.

I've noticed that the Starfleet vessels are very detailed and well made but some of the alien ships are not to that standard. Some are good like the Klingon bird of prey the vorcha attack cruiser are really nice but again the Borg vessel and ferengi vessel are not great standards. Some of the Alien ships I've not bothered about buying. The kremin time ship and others. I'm loving the collection but is there anyone out there that haven't bought the Alien ships.???
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Old August 8 2014, 07:14 PM   #1421
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The Tholian ship is the first alien one I've bought, it's the only alien one that I wanted from the start of the collection and I'm pleased with it.

The only problems I've had have been with the starfleet ones, the NX-01's nacelles aren't as straight as they could have been and my Excelsior looks badly cobbled together. Mind you the Excelsior was more a random buy, didn't want it as much.

The rest are just fine, got the Prometheus last week and there's nothing wrong with it.

I admit I'm not the biggest fan of where they put the seperations of the various parts, and they're getting a lot more noticable, but still, I like what I have so far.
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Old August 8 2014, 08:39 PM   #1422
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Turn that Dauntless upside down and it looks like a warp speedboat.
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Old August 10 2014, 06:21 AM   #1423
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My opinion on ships to use. First I am assuming no actual shuttle or similar ships, Runabout, Delta Flyer, even Starfleet 2 man attack ship/ Maquis Raider aren't technically shuttles.

TNG and TOS and Original films were limited by Model construction, so pretty much any original model that has real promise would get picked, as compared to later DS9, Voyager, or Enterprise, where ships were created for almost all races we were shown.

Also for myself this is Trek based on materials that would have been part of the art department and approved by executive producers (film and tv), not things like FASA (Loved them as a kid), not the old technical Manual, not novels and computer games.

TNG produced many cobbled together models from spare parts, redressed many models with minor differences, and even created some out of plastic and razors, which I also won't consider as in my mind they aren't serious work.

TOS
1. Original Enterprise (Will be done)
2. Romulan Bird of Prey
3. Klingon D7
4. SS Botany Bay
5. K7 Station
6. Fesarius (once mentioned and then later said not likely)

Those are the only TOS pieces that I could see making any cut due to lack of detail on others (like the Tholian ship of that time). But I would still get it.

TOS films
7. Enterprise Refit (Done and poorly)
8. Klingon Ktinga (Done)
9. Enterprise A (to be done)
10. Regula One (yes its a redress put upside down, but it is the more prominent station)
11. Reliant (Done)
12. Excelsior (Done)
13. Oberth (will be done)
14. Klingon Bird of Prey (Done)
15. Space Dock
16. Mechantman (first used here and had several later uses and redresses)

TNG
17. Enterprise D (done)
18. Ferengi Marauder (done)
19. Romulan Warbird (Done)
20. Borg Cube (Not stupid Lamp)
21. Stargazer (Done)
22. Cardassian Galor Class (Done)
23. Nebula Class Variant (kit bash and a good one) - Thank God not the Phoenix (Done)
24. Klingon Vor'Cha Class (Done)
25. Romulan Scout Ship (Not the redressed Science Ship)
26. Enterprise C (To Be Done)
27. Tamarian Cruiser (also used as T'Lani Cruiser, and a redress for others)
28. Pirate Ship Destroyed in Unification (Seriously could lose this one)
29. Borg Ship from Descent (mentioned)
30. USS Pasteur - I really, really want this one.
31. Future Enterprise D ugly 3 nacelle kitbash (Done)

TNG has a few others of course Jonalin, reused ship in Gambit I and 2 from DS9 first season), and the Pakleds ship that was used in TNG more then once, DS9 and heck even ENT.

TNG Film
32. Enterprise E (Done)
33. Borg Sphere (done)
34. Enterprise B - ugly modification of original Excelsior model (Will be done)
35. Akira Class (Done)
36. Steamrunner Class
37. Norway Class
38. The Phoenix
39. Saber Class
40. Son'a attack Ship
41. Federation Scout Ship
42. Ru'afo Ship (really didn't care for any of the Son'a but they played a major role in a film)
43. Romulan Valdore (Will be Done)
44. Shinzon's transforming Reman ship (I hate ships that transform)


TNG films leaves still several other options. The ships Guinan's people were on, The Stellar Observatory, Captain's Yacht, the Solar Collector, the Romulan/ Reman attack craft, the Holo ship.

DS9
45. Deep Space Nine (Done)
46. Runabout with Roll bar (actually would rather have one with out) (Will be done)
47. Bajoran Freighter (Redress of Paklads ship, but used several times for Bajor)
48. Bajoran Assault Vessel
49. Bajoran Impulse Craft (Kira and Dax used in Siege)
50. Maquis fighter (later used in TNG and Ds9 as Federation Attack ship)
51. Hideki Ship (Will be done)
52. Jem'Hadar attack ship (Will be done)
53. Solar Sailer (Done)
54. Negh'Var (Will be Done)
55. Karemma Ship (redressed for several others)
56. Defaint (Done)
57. Cardassian Freighter (also used as Klingon Freighter)
58. Ty'Gokor Station
59. Jem'Hadar Cruiser (Done)
60. USS Centaur (kitbash and a good one)
61. Jem'Hadar Battleship
62. Breen Cruiser
63. Xhosa cargo freighter (You might notice I like the various cargo ships used on Trek)
64. Dominion Station
65. Daedalus class ship

Ds9 had several other options, from a huge number of kit bashed ships to various alien crafts of the week. Wouldn't mind the orbital weapons platform either.

Voyager
66. Voyager (Done)
67. Maquis Raider (will be done)
68. Kazon Raider
69. Kazon Carrier (large Kazon/ Trabe Vessel)
70. Array
71. Vidian Ship (if they must) Vidians only had redressed ships if I recall, but they were a major early player for Voyager, and one of the better designed races.
72. Voth City Ship (wouldn't mind the Medical City Ship in Critical Care either)
73. Bio Ship
74. Kremin Time Ship (Done)
75. Hirogen Ship
76. Dauntless (Done)
77. Malon Freighter
78. Delta Flyer (Done)
79. Ship from Disease (Terrible episode great ship design) but would be tiny as hell (for a long time, the most detailed Cgi ship on Trek, go figure).
80. Borg Queen Diamond
81. Prometheus (Done)
82. Equinox (Done)
83. Raven

Voyager as a seeming less endless number of ships that could be used, some of really nice design, some utterly crap.

Ent
84. Enterprise (done)
85. Suliban Cell ship
86. Suliban Helix
87. Forunate (One of my all time favorite designs)
88. Intrepid class
89.Klingon Raptor
90. Klingon Bird of Prey (Will be done)
91. Klingon Freighter
92. Early Romulan Warbird (Done)
93. Romulan Scout (will be done)
94. Andorian Ship (Will be done)
95. Vulcan Surak Class (Will be done)
96. Vulcan D'Kyr (really want this one)
97. Orion Vessel
98. Reptellian Vessel
99. Xindi Insect vessel (Done)
100. Xindi Aquatic vessel
101. Degra's Vessel
102. Other Xindi Vessel (unknown which race).
103. Sphere or Xindi Weapon
104. Nx-Alpha
105. Horizon

Enterprise had a large number of ships built for it and in many ways they showed a large improvement over the alien of the week ships built for Voyager.

So thats basically my wish list trying to keep almost entirely to well known ships, or ships that played important roles in major story lines. Or ships that were seen many times over.

And that takes us way past 90 ships, doesn't hit the new JJ timeline (though I think most of those will fail under specials, unfortunately, generally love the films with the exception of how little distance is shown and the design of ships, the earth station is an exception as well as the shuttle, both of those I really enjoy).

So without digging up alien of the week ships (with a very few exceptions), without mining the vast number of kit bashes that TNG and DS9 and Voyager used both model and cgi versions), and without doing duplicates of any nature. The film and tv universe as plenty to use.

Now I am not totally against outside ships (theres a ringship I would love, Love to see), I want to see them really use the full line up of material actually created and designed by the various art departments that were hired for the show first.
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Old August 11 2014, 01:06 AM   #1424
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Anyone in the US get confirmation of JJprise shipping yet?
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Old August 11 2014, 10:04 AM   #1425
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got my first ship the other day. the romulan warbird.
have to admit I wasnt too impressed with it, but then it may be my dislike for the ship overall.

well loved the plaque that came with it from the ent d though so cant grumble
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