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Old May 17 2013, 01:52 AM   #1
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Starfleet and San Francisco

Hey guys, why did Roddenberry choose SF for Starfleet? Does anyone know where documentation for that is - other than Wikipedia?

I've had a query from a magazine regarding this and my own resources don't hold that info; I sure regret my recent book cull. :/

Thanks. I'll send along your name or username to the writer for whomever provides the info - that is, unless he's got it from someone else by now.
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Old May 17 2013, 03:18 AM   #2
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Re: Starfleet and San Francisco

I remember reading that Roddenberry chose San Francisco because that's where the United Nations charter was signed in 1945, but I can't remember where I read it....

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Old May 17 2013, 06:40 AM   #3
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I just assumed because it's hippie central.
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Old May 17 2013, 09:08 AM   #4
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WAS hippie central. Now it's chinamexicohipstergaytownusa, thankyouverymuch.
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Old May 17 2013, 12:03 PM   #5
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Re: Starfleet and San Francisco

It's kind of strange that Roddenberry didn't put Starfleet in Los Angeles, he lived a big chunk of his life there, and apparently liked the city.

Early on (I'm not sure when) he came up with the idea that the Enterprise was originally constructed in orbit above San Fransisco, so that might have been the start of the idea.

Maybe it was part of the process of repudiating Franz Joseph's ideas, FJ placed Starfleet HQ in a space station in interstellar space, iirc FJ put the Federation government there too.

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Old May 17 2013, 12:15 PM   #6
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Early on (I'm not sure when) he came up with the idea that the Enterprise was originally constructed in orbit above San Fransisco, so that might have been the start of the idea.
The dedication plaque on the bridge of the TOS Enterprise listed San Francisco as either its construction site or where the ship was commissioned.

It might not have been much of a stretch to place Starfleet Headquarters there too.
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Old May 17 2013, 01:46 PM   #7
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Because it's where the UN was founded (as 1001001 mentioned), and also it was where the troops shipped out for WW2 in the Pacific.

Source.
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Old May 17 2013, 08:30 PM   #8
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Until 1974 it was the site of the 638-acre US Navy Shipyards, possibly the largest in the world. If you were looking for a locale to tie a wild sci fi series to earth, and give it a nautical flavor, too, where else would you go? (I mean, other than Riverside, Iowa.)
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Old May 17 2013, 10:56 PM   #9
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San Francisco historically had a huge naval presence up untli the late 70's. With both Mare Island naval shipyard (now closed except for some civilian work). The huge San Francisco Navy Yards at Hunters Point (also now closed). And the Naval Air Station and port facilities at Alameda. Now also closed except as a tourist attraction with the WW2 carrier USS Hornet.
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Old May 17 2013, 11:15 PM   #10
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I remember reading that Roddenberry chose San Francisco because that's where the United Nations charter was signed in 1945, but I can't remember where I read it....


That's what I had heard as well, though I can't rememer where either.
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Old May 18 2013, 12:38 AM   #11
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San Francisco historically had a huge naval presence up untli the late 70's.
Where they keep the nuclear wessels, of course.
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Old May 18 2013, 08:19 AM   #12
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OT but it was announced today that Dallas, my home, is getting a nuclear wessel. The nuclear attack submarine USS Dallas is to be retired next year and the city wants it for a maritime museum. We're 200 miles from the Gulf of Mexico for crying out loud!
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Old May 18 2013, 08:33 AM   #13
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OT but it was announced today that Dallas, my home, is getting a nuclear wessel. The nuclear attack submarine USS Dallas is to be retired next year and the city wants it for a maritime museum. We're 200 miles from the Gulf of Mexico for crying out loud!
Can you think of a better hiding place for a nuclear sub? Not as cool as Atragon's, of course, but it'll do.
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Old May 18 2013, 08:47 AM   #14
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Then again it was the 60's a time of Peace & Love, flower power etc. and San Francisco was the epicenter? When the show was filmed.
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Old May 19 2013, 06:04 AM   #15
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Even in 1966?
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