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Old May 25 2014, 02:36 AM   #721
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Re: New Star Wars animated show "Rebels" coming fall 2014

Absolutely. And not just the changes in Han's behavior and bearing but the entire state of the Rebel Alliance seems to indicate that more than just a few months or a year have transpired since the Battle of Yavin and the destruction of the original Death Star. While it's not out of the realm of possibility (especially in a fictional galaxy of a sci-fi/fantasy franchise) for a fleeing alliance of rebels and guerilla fighters to locate a new planet for their central base of operations, construct a vast subterranean base on Hoth within a year's time (or even less) and then crew and equip it so extensively that evacuating it would be a complicated and lengthy process, it just makes more sense for a few years to have passed between the battles of Yavin and Hoth considering all the changes and the logistics that would be involved.
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Old May 25 2014, 03:10 AM   #722
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There are too many moving parts for it to be easily argued one way or another. It could've been either.

It's enough time for Han to be consistently feeling the heat from the Bounty Hunters and enough for General Rieekan to say Han is a good fighter. It's also enough time for Han to have debated whether to go or stay such that Leia knows he was considering it and thinks he had decided to stay.

The Empire has thousands of probe droids searching for the Rebels and Vader is frustrated about how long it has taken. The Empire has also discovered it was Luke Skywalker that destroyed the Death Star.

Luke's also risen to command what is now Rogue Squadron - though that might not've taken very long after Yavin anyway.
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Old May 25 2014, 03:14 AM   #723
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Re: New Star Wars animated show "Rebels" coming fall 2014

The Marvel SW comic released between the movies had Han repay his debt to Jabba (who was depicted as a much skinnier bipedal alien), leaving him free and clear during the time between movies, but then shortly before the events of TESB, he was responsible for destroying some valuable property of Jabba's or scuttling some profitable deal or something, so Jabba put a new bounty on his head.
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Old May 25 2014, 03:28 AM   #724
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@ cooleddie74: who says the Rebels built the Hoth base? Could've been an abandoned Clone Wars depot they fixed up for all we know.

... Okay, I'll drop this particular tangent now.
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Old May 26 2014, 12:20 AM   #725
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Rebels isn't the only Disney animated Star Wars project:
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/tv/ph...r-wars-poster/
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Old May 26 2014, 03:37 AM   #726
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Heck, it's not even clear how much time elapsing *during* TESB much less how much has passed between films.
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Old May 26 2014, 05:32 AM   #727
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Re: New Star Wars animated show "Rebels" coming fall 2014

Mr. Adventure wrote: View Post
Rebels isn't the only Disney animated Star Wars project:
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/tv/ph...r-wars-poster/
The only noteworthy thing there is that they are still using Maul. That's very interesting. I figured Disney was pushing all the PT elements aside for now... unless it means [spoiler spoilers]. The art looks awful, but I'm sure it will have an audience.

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Heck, it's not even clear how much time elapsing *during* TESB much less how much has passed between films.
I was trying to figure that one as well. I think when the lead characters do a clothing change it is meant to suggest a noteworthy passage of time. I read somewhere recently that Luke trained with Yoda for "a few weeks" on Degobah and it sort of makes sense. He couldn't have made that much progress in a couple of days... although that's how much time Luke had with Ben, period.

I was also doing some research into "why did the Rebels take so long to evacuate the Yavin VI base after destroying the Death Star in episode VI." Because in the film right after the end battle we see a huge ceremony take place in the Yavin VI temple when presumably the whole Empire knew they were there.

According to some sources the Empire had the Yavin system blockaded for some time and it took some maneuvers to get the Rebels away safely but ultimately they didn't want the galaxy to know the extent of the rebellion and wanted to keep things on the down low.

Anyway, this pause between VI and V and as well between V and VI being discussed here surprises me because I didn't actually think the dates were contestable and were fixed by Lucasfilm in some official way. I was sure I read three years between VI and V and one year between V and VI (in which Shadows of the Empire takes place).

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The Marvel SW comic released between the movies had Han repay his debt to Jabba (who was depicted as a much skinnier bipedal alien), leaving him free and clear during the time between movies, but then shortly before the events of TESB, he was responsible for destroying some valuable property of Jabba's or scuttling some profitable deal or something, so Jabba put a new bounty on his head.
A lot can happen in three years. The original reason for Han's bounty (in A New Hope) was that he dropped a shipment at the sign of an imperial cruiser, right? That detail is mentioned on screen, I believe. That would be a smuggler's choice to make. Anyway, that's an interesting bit of trivia. I'd always assumed he sat on the fortune and was 'too busy' to pay off Jabba's original bounty from A New Hope... although I could never figure out why he couldn't just hire someone else to fly the debt to Tattooine?

That last Rebels trailer looks great. I'm hoping we'll see the feature late this summer because I'm getting impatient for all this new stuff coming out! Last years marketing projection promised some "Darth Vader TV Specials" for summer 2014 and by golly it's nearly summer.
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Old May 26 2014, 10:10 AM   #728
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^He actually says to Jabba in RotJ "I was just on my way to pay you back...but I got a little side-tracked. It's not my fault!"

Which means he never did repay that debt and as Jabba said "it's too late for that". After three years of non-payment and the killing perhaps two of his bounty hunters (Greedo and whoever they ran into on Ord Mantell) he had to make an example.
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Old May 26 2014, 04:25 PM   #729
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billcosby wrote:
I think when the lead characters do a clothing change it is meant to suggest a noteworthy passage of time.
And of course they show up on Bespin wearing the same clothes...

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unless it means [spoiler spoilers].
Eh?
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Old May 26 2014, 04:50 PM   #730
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billcosby wrote:
unless it means [spoiler spoilers].
Eh?
Sorry.

Unless it means Darth Maul
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Old June 9 2014, 02:06 PM   #731
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Confirmed: Billy Dee Williams will be doing voice work for Rebels.

It would seem impossible for that not to mean Lando, right? I wonder if they'll make Lando sort of the same character Hondo was in The Clone Wars. Sometimes ally, sometimes problem, never completely trustworthy.
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Old June 9 2014, 04:57 PM   #732
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He has such a recognizable voice that I can't imagine he'd be playing anyone but Lando.

The big question now is, will we be seeing him flying the Falcon?
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Old June 9 2014, 05:35 PM   #733
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The big question now is, will we be seeing him flying the Falcon?
Oh, didn't even think about that! I guess that's a strong possibility--I always got the idea Han had had the Falcon for quite a while in A New Hope, but there's nothing indicating that to be the case, especially with any expanded sources not counting anymore.
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Old June 9 2014, 05:49 PM   #734
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Yeah it felt like Han had owned the Falcon for awhile, but given that the show takes place early on in the Rebellion (and that that Rebellion had seemingly been going on for quite awhile by the time of ANH), I think the timeframe could probably be right.
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Old June 9 2014, 07:00 PM   #735
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Re: New Star Wars animated show "Rebels" coming fall 2014

If Rebels is set at roughly the halfway point in the timeline between the birth of the Empire and the opening scenes of A New Hope (10 BBY) then Han would be about nineteen or twenty at the time and theoretically old enough to already own the Falcon and be a smuggler, but wasn't Han a lieutenant in the Imperial military at the time after going through the Academy? I realize the EU's now been suspended or jettisoned but it would seem to me that he wouldn't beat Lando at the sabacc game and win the Falcon until a few years later and just a few before the events of the original film.

Either way, it'll be great to hear Billy Dee voicing a younger Lando. If he's not going to be in Episode VII for whatever reason(s) then this is the next-best thing. Very cool.
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