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Old May 24 2013, 09:11 PM   #31
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Re: TV GUIDE: "STAR TREK SHOULD RETURN TO TV...

Really, the most likely way that Trek could come back to TV in the near-future is through Bad Robot, as those folks are hot properties in the TV world and CBS has no other reason to produce a Trek series.
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Old May 24 2013, 10:32 PM   #32
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Really, the most likely way that Trek could come back to TV in the near-future is through Bad Robot, as those folks are hot properties in the TV world and CBS has no other reason to produce a Trek series.
They have plenty of reasons to do another show. Lets just hope that the hacks from Bad Robot aren't involved. Lindelof, Kurtzman and Orci can't write, they're awful.
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Old May 24 2013, 11:15 PM   #33
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Really, the most likely way that Trek could come back to TV in the near-future is through Bad Robot, as those folks are hot properties in the TV world and CBS has no other reason to produce a Trek series.
They have plenty of reasons to do another show.
Nope, not a one.

As others have pointed out (more than once) CBS is doing far too well with too much stuff that has broader mainstream appeal to have any urgent interest in Star Trek.

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Lindelof, Kurtzman and Orci can't write, they're awful.
Charming and original as that sentiment may be, people without skills do not succeed at what these guys are doing year after year, project after project. People who don't create shows and movies that suit a particular viewer's tastes do, of course.

Go ahead, mention Transformers.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:10 AM   #34
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Really, the most likely way that Trek could come back to TV in the near-future is through Bad Robot, as those folks are hot properties in the TV world and CBS has no other reason to produce a Trek series.
They have plenty of reasons to do another show.
Nope, not a one.

As others have pointed out (more than once) CBS is doing far too well with too much stuff that has broader mainstream appeal to have any urgent interest in Star Trek.

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Lindelof, Kurtzman and Orci can't write, they're awful.
Charming and original as that sentiment may be, people without skills do not succeed at what these guys are doing year after year, project after project. People who don't create shows and movies that suit a particular viewer's tastes do, of course.

Go ahead, mention Transformers.
I'll also mention Cowboys & Aliens, The Island and Prometheus. All of which were awful. Star Trek is also CBS' main cash cow, it'll be back and hopefully without those hacks.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:19 AM   #35
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[ Star Trek is also CBS' main cash cow...
I think NCIS (or The Big Bang Theory) is CBS' biggest property right now. No scratch that, it probably is The Big Bang Theory.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:27 AM   #36
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[ Star Trek is also CBS' main cash cow...
I think NCIS (or The Big Bang Theory) is CBS' biggest property right now. No scratch that, it probably is The Big Bang Theory.
You forget about the merchandise and DVD sales that ST could bring.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:42 AM   #37
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[ Star Trek is also CBS' main cash cow...
I think NCIS (or The Big Bang Theory) is CBS' biggest property right now. No scratch that, it probably is The Big Bang Theory.
You forget about the merchandise and DVD sales that ST could bring.
Not at all, but I believe TBBT generally brings in around 16 million viewers a week currently and CBS has been licensing the heck out of it recently.
http://www.cbsstore.com/the-big-bang...ebigbangtheory
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Old May 25 2013, 12:52 AM   #38
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I think NCIS (or The Big Bang Theory) is CBS' biggest property right now. No scratch that, it probably is The Big Bang Theory.
You forget about the merchandise and DVD sales that ST could bring.
Not at all, but I believe TBBT generally brings in around 16 million viewers a week currently and CBS has been licensing the heck out of it recently.
http://www.cbsstore.com/the-big-bang...ebigbangtheory
And you don't think ST can bring in good numbers? If a pile of garbage like TBBT can bring in those ridiculous numbers imagine what ST could do.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:57 AM   #39
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Yeah, "moving the goal posts" isn't even an adequate description of what C.E. Evans is doing in trying to avoid admitting that he's just flat-out wrong, here.
Clearly.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:58 AM   #40
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You forget about the merchandise and DVD sales that ST could bring.
Not at all, but I believe TBBT generally brings in around 16 million viewers a week currently and CBS has been licensing the heck out of it recently.
http://www.cbsstore.com/the-big-bang...ebigbangtheory
And you don't think ST can bring in good numbers? If a pile of garbage like TBBT can bring in those ridiculous numbers imagine what ST could do.
I actually don't think a new Star Trek series will bring in anywhere near the numbers TBBT does. Maybe for the pilot episode, but I think on average, a new Trek show will do about half as good as TBBT does.
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Old May 25 2013, 12:59 AM   #41
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Yeah, "moving the goal posts" isn't even an adequate description of what C.E. Evans is doing in trying to avoid admitting that he's just flat-out wrong, here.
Clearly.
Clearly not.
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Old May 25 2013, 01:07 AM   #42
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Not at all, but I believe TBBT generally brings in around 16 million viewers a week currently and CBS has been licensing the heck out of it recently.
http://www.cbsstore.com/the-big-bang...ebigbangtheory
And you don't think ST can bring in good numbers? If a pile of garbage like TBBT can bring in those ridiculous numbers imagine what ST could do.
I actually don't think a new Star Trek series will bring in anywhere near the numbers TBBT does. Maybe for the pilot episode, but I think on average, a new Trek show will do about half as good as TBBT does.
Couldn't they sell the show to another network like Syfy or Showtime?
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Old May 25 2013, 01:11 AM   #43
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And you don't think ST can bring in good numbers? If a pile of garbage like TBBT can bring in those ridiculous numbers imagine what ST could do.
I actually don't think a new Star Trek series will bring in anywhere near the numbers TBBT does. Maybe for the pilot episode, but I think on average, a new Trek show will do about half as good as TBBT does.
Couldn't they sell the show to another network like Syfy or Showtime?
CBS actually owns Showtime, but yeah, they could sell it to someone else. The odds aren't likely, though, because it's still valuable to them as a licensable property and will still make money off it for the foreseeable future. They may not want to sell it to someone who could make even more money off it than they will.
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Old May 25 2013, 02:41 AM   #44
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And you don't think ST can bring in good numbers? If a pile of garbage like TBBT can bring in those ridiculous numbers imagine what ST could do.
Wow, it's so obvious! I can't imagine why Les Moonves has his job and you don't.

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Couldn't they sell the show to another network like Syfy or Showtime?
Huh? Wait a minute - how can you know so much about how CBS ought to allocate their resources and be able to predict their success in advance, and not know stuff like this?

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Old May 25 2013, 03:54 AM   #45
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And you don't think ST can bring in good numbers? If a pile of garbage like TBBT can bring in those ridiculous numbers imagine what ST could do.
Wow, it's so obvious! I can't imagine why Les Moonves has his job and you don't.

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Couldn't they sell the show to another network like Syfy or Showtime?
Huh? Wait a minute - how can you know so much about how CBS ought to allocate their resources and be able to predict their success in advance, and not know stuff like this?

Are you mad cuz I made fun of your Bad Robot hacks? And Les Moonves is a moron when you look at all the awful shows on his network.
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