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Old May 19 2013, 02:57 AM   #106
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Alpha? Beta? What about the Sigma or Theta?
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Old May 19 2013, 02:59 AM   #107
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Chakotay was plenty Alpha in Caretaker. Honestly I think Jeri Taylor just toned him way back because she didn't want him stealing Janeway's spotlight.
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Old May 19 2013, 03:29 AM   #108
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Actually from the female view point right now in romantic literature, the beta male (think accountant, wears glasses, isn't physical) has a lot of fans. I know that there are a lot of fan fic authors that write Chakotay as the "alpha" male type, but I find nothing wrong with the "beta" Chakotay we saw most often on Voyager.
I would never personally go above beta

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Chakotay was plenty Alpha in Caretaker. Honestly I think Jeri Taylor just toned him way back because she didn't want him stealing Janeway's spotlight.
He looked good in those leathers too.
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Old May 19 2013, 05:23 AM   #109
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Alpha? Beta? What about the Sigma or Theta?
I don't think those have been classified yet LOL. The Alpha/Beta Hero is much discussed in some circles.

http://heroineswithhearts.blogspot.c...ce-stakes.html

and Teacake, I never liked him so much in the leather pants LOL. I also liked his early series crew cut with the honest gray hair.
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Old May 19 2013, 05:34 AM   #110
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I liked the crew cut too Brit!

As to rankings past Alpha and Beta I found this:



It seems I only make it as high as Gamma in the attraction game. The Betas are too much for me
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Chakotay is definitely Beta if that chart is anything to go by.
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Old May 19 2013, 06:29 AM   #112
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Despite whatever coping mechanisms these people use to impersonate genuine human emotions anyone who joins a terrorist organization and starts killing their former friends family, allies, neighbours and government officials, they are an automatic Omega.

If before Meld, there had been a catastrophic loss of senior officers, Lieutenant Lon Suder would have become Captain before Harry did.
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Old May 19 2013, 07:20 AM   #113
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So you agree then that Chakotay is utter fail for Janeway. Good.
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Old May 19 2013, 10:08 AM   #114
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So, what made Mark The perfect mate?
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Old May 19 2013, 10:25 AM   #115
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Lovely beta man, good with dogs.
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You've read Jeri's novel all about him, and you still call him a Beta?
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Old May 19 2013, 10:54 AM   #117
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I have completely forgotten everything in that novel. I only remember one tiny bit from its sequel and that was about 7 of 9.

What did he do? Did he wield the pooper scooper inappropriately?
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Old May 19 2013, 11:07 AM   #118
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He was the childhood friend that stood by her side at ever turn.

When Mark was younger, he went by his middle name "Hobbes".

It was a huge reveal at the end.

"I think I'd prefer it if you called me Mark from now on."
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Old May 19 2013, 11:17 AM   #119
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I do recall that reveal now.. but are you saying he's not the beta in orbit he appears to be when he skypes her?
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Old May 19 2013, 11:45 AM   #120
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Mark was already remarried in less than 4 years, and he wouldn't give her dog back.

A more dependant man would have killed himself, a slightly less dependant man would have wallowed in grief for 20 years then died of a broken heart, a yet still more slightly less dependant man would have divorced or murdered his new wife upon finding out that Kathryn was still alive... And so on.

4 years is quick.

If he wasn't hitting on women at Kathryn's funeral, pulling prime tottie using lines about needing consolation that worked so well, he then crashed every funeral for all 150 crewmen to keep his wick wet for the next 2 years.

4 years is far too quick.

Mark must have been already having an affair with at least one woman when Kathryn was lost in space.
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