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Old August 28 2013, 05:40 AM   #106
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Re: Amok Time doesn't make sense.

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Old August 28 2013, 10:01 AM   #107
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By the time of TNG, though, Vulcans may have dropped their veil of secrecy and quite a bit about their biology had long since been made available in the Starfleet Medical database.
Maybe not. By the time of Voyger, the EMH seem to know basically what pon farr was, but still needed to call Tuvok down to sick bay to ask some detailed questions.

Personally, I'd like to think that after the events of Amok Time, both Kirk and McCoy would have been discrete enough to keep their mouths shut about what happened. Certainly not filing report, or entering information into the Starfleet Medical database.


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Old August 28 2013, 12:39 PM   #108
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You mean popular and well-known artworks such as Vulcan Love Slave Pt II might be factually inaccurate?

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Old August 28 2013, 02:05 PM   #109
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Re: Amok Time doesn't make sense.

I think the title was off/wrong, it could have been called something else I just don't know what?
Had this been a TGN episode it may have been titled "Pon Farr?

Other than that the Episode was OK.
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Old August 28 2013, 03:40 PM   #110
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I absolutely love Amok Time. Now just because I love it doesn't mean it doesn't have inconsistencies and flaws but I think part of that is the nature of 1960's television. This was before consistency and continuity was a real thing in television.

However as far as Trek lore and science fiction goes this is a terrific episode. I love how alien and different Vulcan feels. Plus it's an entire episode about mating, it's great lol. I also love how Vulcan is a matriarch society and Tpau is one of my favorite Trek females. I love how Kirk wants to impress her and this doesn't include wooing her.

The episode also feels very 1960's to me, like I can't imagine something similar to it being made today but that is part of its charm.

I also think it is a fantastic trio episode with all of the Big 3 playing a central role in the episode.

On another note it was neat for me to see Arlene Martel who I was familiar with from Hogan's Heroes.

Finally the Spock smile scene just might be my favorite ending of any Trek episode.

Needless to say the whole Pon Farr thing worked for me here but not so much in The Search for Spock. I am not sure if it is because what works in the 60's doesn't work for me in the 80's or the fact that Nimoy just isn't Sturgeon. But even though I love TSFS I hate those scenes in the movie.
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Old August 28 2013, 03:55 PM   #111
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Pon Farr in the episode partly works as it's treated as something mysterious, not just in the script but the way the scenes are played. In Search for Spock, it's just like they said, 'Well, he's living his life over again, so we need a Pon Farr sequence here.'

The only time Pon Farr seems treated with the same mysterious quality to me is ENT: Bounty, but there it's mostly played for laughs.
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Old August 28 2013, 08:14 PM   #112
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By the time of TNG, though, Vulcans may have dropped their veil of secrecy and quite a bit about their biology had long since been made available in the Starfleet Medical database.
Maybe not. By the time of Voyger, the EMH seem to know basically what pon farr was, but still needed to call Tuvok down to sick bay to ask some detailed questions.
It was still more than what was known during TOS. Not many non-Vulcans had even heard of pon farr back then.

But it seems like quite a bit about Vulcan biology was known by the 24th-Century (like unique diseases and anatomy), with the exception of treatments for pon farr. If the Voyager's EMH--essentially a walking version of the Starfleet Medical database--didn't know, then McCoy could be forgiven for not knowing how to treat Spock's pon farr a century earlier.
Personally, I'd like to think that after the events of Amok Time, both Kirk and McCoy would have been discrete enough to keep their mouths shut about what happened. Certainly not filing report, or entering information into the Starfleet Medical database.
You'd think it would have already been there as far back as the 22nd-Century given the Interspecies Medical Exchange program that was originally initiated by the Vulcans. Phlox must have kept his mouth shut about T'Pol's pon farr too (EDIT: in fact, he did).
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Old August 28 2013, 11:35 PM   #113
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Finally the Spock smile scene just might be my favorite ending of any Trek episode.
Oh yes. That was great. I couldn't believe it the first time I seen it back in '71 or 72. It still makes me smile to see that scene today.
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