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Old May 10 2013, 03:53 AM   #91
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Re: "Doctor" - MDs vs PhDs

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You could do that, Maestro, but you'll inevitably be compared to the Seinfeld episode.
I find it somewhat interesting that you're eager to dismiss my concerns about graduate school address, Dr. Pavonis, while at the same time dismissing my interest in being addressed by a title that I have also earned.

Or perhaps, I find that to just be indicative of the pretense you have over your doctorate.
You misunderstood me, Maestro. I wasn't dismissing your interest in using your title. By all means do so. I was merely pointing out that you would inevitably be compared to the episode of Seinfeld in which a guest character insists on being called "Maestro". Just an observation, not a judgment.

Did you address your professor in graduate school as "Doctor," or were you more familiar?
Actually, I called them "Professor" until they told me we could be on a first name basis. Reasonable, no?
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Old May 10 2013, 09:33 AM   #92
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It's a cultural thing for me, to an extent. I think of it as showing respect by maintaining that formality. We don't call elders by their names in my culture; I very rarely call my older siblings by their first names.
I have to ask, how do you address your older siblings?
There's a whole system and it varies by region. I call my sister "Didi," for example, but it's a general term for older sister. If you have multiple older sisters (or cousins, they fall in the same category), you differentiate more. My older cousin is Bordi, and to my younger cousins my sister is Mezdi and I'm Chhordi. They basically mean eldest sister, middle sister, and smallest/youngest sister, while all being used for elders.
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Old May 10 2013, 05:10 PM   #93
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Posted by Tora Ziyal:
But buying an honorary degree doesn't?
Hubris is forgivable in the name of fun. That's why I participate in the Karaoke Idol at work. Or are you going to lecture me that I'm not qualified???
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Old May 10 2013, 05:43 PM   #94
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^ By now I've read your post about just doing it for fun.
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Old May 12 2013, 04:59 AM   #95
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I have my bachelor's degree in English and I'm also single. However, graciously, I usually don't make people refer to me as "Bachelor" unless we're in a formal setting.
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Old May 12 2013, 06:13 AM   #96
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Of course colleagues should be addressing each other by first names; I've always done so. But would you expect the service members under your authority to be so familiar with you?
I meant my last name. So they would address me by Rank and Last Name, i.e. Major K...... (not wanting to put my last name here). Or they would say, Sir. But the civilians, like the Doctor in this case, would generally call us by our Rank and Last Names, however since my last name seemed to difficult for her to even attempt to learn, she shortened it to Major K.
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Old May 12 2013, 05:18 PM   #97
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I have my bachelor's degree in English and I'm also single. However, graciously, I usually don't make people refer to me as "Bachelor" unless we're in a formal setting.
I really prefer "Mr. Awesome" to any other possible title. But only in informal settings.
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Old May 12 2013, 09:17 PM   #98
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Like the bedroom.
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Old May 13 2013, 12:34 AM   #99
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I think titles are important and should be used based on context. They are used to show respect, they are used to differentiate professional settings from social settings. They are part of what makes society... society.

I can't imagine calling a bona fide professor by their first name in a university setting. Even when our class was out drinking with the profs we still called them Professor. Unless you established a personal relationship with that specific person which allowed you to be familiar with them they were still a person with a Ph.D, charged by the university to instruct us. They earned their doctorate through years of study and proved their competence through a defense of their thesis, and again worked hard to become a faculty member at the university.

That doesn't mean they deserve my respect, but it does mean that I owe them the public show of respect. I don't think its elitist at all, its part of what makes us civilized, structure... we're not all equal, no matter how much some people would like to pretend.
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Old May 13 2013, 02:46 AM   #100
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I had dinner tonight with a friend who's taught both grad students and undergrads at three universities over the past decade, and I was telling him about this conversation. He was very surprised to hear that in some places students address faculty members by their first names. They don't anywhere he's studied or taught.
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Old May 13 2013, 01:52 PM   #101
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Tora Ziyal wrote: View Post
I had dinner tonight with a friend who's taught both grad students and undergrads at three universities over the past decade, and I was telling him about this conversation. He was very surprised to hear that in some places students address faculty members by their first names. They don't anywhere he's studied or taught.
Which as we pointed out is the flip in lots of places, I've never taught or been taught in any university (in the UK) where titles are used in face-to-face interaction.
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Old May 13 2013, 03:38 PM   #102
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^Yes, I obviously know it's the flip in some places, or I wouldn't have been talking about it with my friend in the first place. Forgive me for wanting to share his experience here.
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