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Old May 7 2013, 12:19 PM   #16
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Re: So besides me who else...

I've been watching episodes of the original series instead, but tomorrow night will watch Trek XI before I see STID the next morning. Sometime later in the year, planning on buying the movies on blu-ray, and make a weekend where I just watch the movies.
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Old May 7 2013, 02:40 PM   #17
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^There will be (or already are) fans who see Chris Pine and think Kirk, and Shatner as the guy from the Priceline commericals
Pine could play Kirk for 20 years and still not match up to Shatner.

I'm sure people said the same thing about Adam West and Batman, until Michael Keaton and Christian Bale came along

Ditto for Connery and Bond and his various successors. Or Bela Lugosi and Dracula. Or John Wayne and Rooster Cogburn. Or George Reeves and Superman.

No actor is irreplaceable. There's always room for another interpretation.
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Old May 7 2013, 03:00 PM   #18
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Re: So besides me who else...

I've been watching mostly TOS now in preparing for STID, followed in the next few days by some of the TOS movies.

What I've done is pick the episodes that may have some relevance to STID, for example: "Errand of Mercy", "Day of the Dove" and so on because the Klingons are in the movie to some degree.

For the TOS movies, one of my uncles passed away last year, and he always found Trek things for me at flea markets and thrift shops. One of the last things he gave me was a box set of the TOS movies on VHS, and since I still have a player, I'm going to play the movies on that in honor of my uncle.

And Greg, I agree about interpretation of a role. Some folks should try to experience various interpretations of live Shakespeare. You will see 10 different people play a role and see 10 different interpretations. It's actually very interesting to see.
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Old May 7 2013, 04:53 PM   #19
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I watched Trek09 last night! I am ready to go!!
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Old May 7 2013, 07:13 PM   #20
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And Greg, I agree about interpretation of a role. Some folks should try to experience various interpretations of live Shakespeare. You will see 10 different people play a role and see 10 different interpretations. It's actually very interesting to see.
Exactly. I always find it fascinating to see how different actors interpret the same character. If we can have dozens of different Macbeths or Carmens, why not different takes on Kirk and Spock and the rest?
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Old May 7 2013, 07:18 PM   #21
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In principle there is nothing wrong with that but in this particular instance Kirk is just badly written.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:18 AM   #22
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You can really skip Insurrection, really.
I can't. I'm a completist.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:27 AM   #23
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^There will be (or already are) fans who see Chris Pine and think Kirk, and Shatner as the guy from the Priceline commericals
Pine could play Kirk for 20 years and still not match up to Shatner.
Agreed...I just think the whole thing is something completely different than star trek was made out to be. Its for the newer generation full of action and cool effects. I just take it for what it is...and enjoy it for that
I wanted to like the 2009 movie. I really did. I tried, and failed. The new actors are fine, but the different-timeline thing annoyed me, and I'm not really an action-and-cool-effects person anyway. Won't be seeing STID.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:45 AM   #24
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I don't mind action and cool effects if they are just there for the sake of contrast or if they are just the icing on the cake. But when there is no story underneath it I am not interested either. A brainless action flick branded as Trek is still a brainless action flick.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:50 AM   #25
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^This. I should've been more clear in my post. Action and cool effects by themselves are not enough to hold my interest.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:59 AM   #26
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Since I've watched all the movies multiple times going into this, I decided to alter my original plan and watch them with commentary since I haven't done that before.
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Old May 8 2013, 03:02 AM   #27
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Speaking of commentaries, I hope they release another set of TNG movies on whatever media is after blu-ray, and I want Jonathan Frakes to do commentary on ALL of them. Just listening to the FC DVD (and blu-ray sometime back) commentary track had me in stitches! Also, he loves to talk about production tidbits, and even as an actor in the other movies, I'm sure he could impart some kind of perspective. Okay, I just love the man.
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Old May 8 2013, 04:30 AM   #28
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If nothing else, rewatching TMP has reminded me that Kirk's white jumpsuit is far and away my favorite Trek Uniform. Makes me glad I decided to do this.
Has anyone else noticed that in the previews for Into Darkness that Kirk's dress uniform is a throwback to the TMP uniforms?

Oh and yeah, I plan on seeing all the previous films prior to seeing the new one
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Old May 8 2013, 05:01 AM   #29
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I thought the casting was pretty decent in STXI, except for Scotty and Chekov.

What I really hated about the film (Besides the black hole stuff) was that there was no cleverness to Kirk's tactics. He just beamed in and shot everyone.

But overall I did like the movie. And I will probably like this one.

Just, this is a different Star Trek than the Star Trek I grew up with. It's a good franchise, but it's a completely different franchise, bearing no relationship with the previous incarnations except for character and place names, and the fact they both occur in the future in space.
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Old May 8 2013, 09:11 AM   #30
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I thought the casting was pretty decent in STXI, except for Scotty and Chekov.

What I really hated about the film (Besides the black hole stuff) was that there was no cleverness to Kirk's tactics. He just beamed in and shot everyone.

But overall I did like the movie. And I will probably like this one.

Just, this is a different Star Trek than the Star Trek I grew up with. It's a good franchise, but it's a completely different franchise, bearing no relationship with the previous incarnations except for character and place names, and the fact they both occur in the future in space.
From what I can see with Pine's portrayal, Kirk is certainly very clever, but he's restrained about it, preferring brute force to full out strategy. Though as he progresses from the beginning and then toward the end of the film, you can see him starting to branch out a little bit, though he's still a shoot from the hip kind of guy. It's my belief that this is due to the lack of a father figure in his life. He didn't have that Starfleet officer role model that prime universe Kirk had.

I expect we'll see his cleverness open up more as the movies continue forward. Hopefully STID will be an indicator of this.
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