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Old February 10 2014, 08:56 PM   #1186
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when Michonne was peaking in the window looking at Carl and Rick, I half expected her to keep walking and become a loner again
I thought she was going to go get Carl's shoe and bring it to him the way she was tracking him. It would've been fun had they done that.

Also, I feel that this story worked a lot better in the comics because the Carl there was a lot younger and didn't go through nearly as much as TV Carl. At this point it seemed strange to have him fumbling his gun and missing shots when not very long ago he was acing zombies.
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Old February 10 2014, 09:01 PM   #1187
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The end of the episode was pretty weird. Rick looks through the peephole in the door then smiles and says to Carl... "It's for you." I'm guessing it's Michonne with a shoe.
Also remember Carl and Michonne have a special relationship. Carl is the one who got Rick to let her be part of the group and Michonne was going out on runs getting him comic books to read.

So it would make sense that Rick would say Michonne at the door was for him.
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Old February 10 2014, 10:23 PM   #1188
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Could just play into the bit Rick was saying about trying to make things 'normal' even after it was clear they couldn't be normal anymore. Just Rick having a little bit of pre-ZA humor...
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Old February 10 2014, 10:40 PM   #1189
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It was meant to be a head-scratcher and it was.
I don't see it. Carl and Michonne have been shown to get along well and pal around. Considering what Carl and Rick had just gone through, suddenly hearing a knock at the door was surprising to them, but when Rick saw who it was, he happily (indicated by his smile) and somewhat mischievously let Carl know that "it's for you". It was a moment of relief for them.
I get what Agent Richard07 is saying. Michonne is there for both of them but maybe Rick specifically said it was for Carl because she's out front waving his shoe.
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Old February 10 2014, 10:43 PM   #1190
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Ratings: Walking Dead Ties Series High, Trumps Olympics


The Walking Dead‘s Season 4B premiere drew 15.8 million total viewers, with 10.4 mil landing in the coveted 18-49 sweet spot — thus matching the zombie drama’s best ever delivery of that demo (set by this season’s opener).

Even opposite the mighty Olympics, the AMC hit grew more than 30 percent from its midseason finale (12.1 mil/7.7 mil) and significantly outperformed its season-to-date average (13 mil/8.4 mil).

TWD’s series high in total audience stands at 16.1 million viewers, set by the Season 4 premiere.
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Old February 10 2014, 10:52 PM   #1191
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Riggs is capable in small doses but the producers asked too much of him tonight. His monologue to his unconscious father felt like a high school play audition.
That's a great way to describe Carl's over acting.

Meh. A lot of Trek fans were very forgiving of Avery Brooks grotesque overacting in the first couple seasons of DS9 - and Carl's poor acting didn't even come close to his.
It wasn't all on Riggs. The writers made it a little too delivered of a speech. Not something a kid as green as him is going to be able to make fully natural sounding. It wasn't terrible, just a tiny bit transparent. I shouldn't end up consciously stopping to notice someone's monologue, because it takes you out of the moment a bit, & that's what happened, but it didn't ruin the episode by any means


I'm also a bit disappointed that there was no regroup plan at all. Crisis planning is almost a no brainer in this world, and after their issues with the Governor, the first time, this counsel they had built should certainly have put together a regroup plan for any potential cause for evacuation

Did they really think there'd never be cause for an evacuation? A fire, an earthquake, a hurricane, raiders, a mass herd. Hell, a plain old modern family has an evacuation plan for their household these days, & that's usually for less than half a dozen people. This was a community of dozens living in a prison, after the end of civilization, & now they're just scattered to the wind. If Michonne hadn't spotted decidedly normal human footprints, they'd never have even found each other at all

All they really needed was a couple spots. We escape to here, & rendezvous there, etc... I suppose dramatically, it was too easy for them to do that. We'd have no "Isolation anxiety" to play off of, like they did with Michonne this week, because ultimately it's not the prison that made them safe, it was the group

In any believable context, they would know that, & would never want to be separated from it for long. Groups do things together, including plan for how to move the group if need be
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Old February 11 2014, 12:35 AM   #1192
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There still could be a contingency plan, depending in what everyone else is doing (I'm assuming a time overlap here) it could just be taking time to get collected and put the plan in action. Hell, inthis episode Rick apparently needed a day-long coma to recover from his injuries.
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Old February 11 2014, 12:40 AM   #1193
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Paging through the comic here, gotta say, the Rick/Carl scenes in the episode were VERY faithful to the source material. Hell, even the two walkers Carl lures away from the house look almost exactly the same in the comic. Fortunately they skipped over all the following "phone Lori" crap (which was already done in the show) and went straight to the reunion with Michonne, although it was much cooler in the comic, where Rick and Carl are in a car getting overrun by walkers and Michonne appears out of nowhere and saves them.

But anyway, this was a rather boring part of the story in both instances and I'm glad we're past it.
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Old February 11 2014, 02:17 AM   #1194
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Yeah, I don't think we needed a whole episode dedicated to a 10-year-old boy (or however old Carl is supposed to be) not have the emotional or physical maturity to survive on his own in a zombie apocalypse. But, hey, who among us DOESN'T want to sit down and eat a gallon of chocolate pudding that's been sitting in a can in the southern heat for at least a year?
He's definitely not supposed to be 10, with the deep voice and clearly adolescent looks. That would strain credibility more than all the zombie apocalyses in the world.
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Old February 11 2014, 02:43 AM   #1195
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Yeah, I don't think we needed a whole episode dedicated to a 10-year-old boy (or however old Carl is supposed to be) not have the emotional or physical maturity to survive on his own in a zombie apocalypse. But, hey, who among us DOESN'T want to sit down and eat a gallon of chocolate pudding that's been sitting in a can in the southern heat for at least a year?
He's definitely not supposed to be 10, with the deep voice and clearly adolescent looks. That would strain credibility more than all the zombie apocalyses in the world.
Ehhhh..... But then you have to consider how old Carl was when the series started and how much time has passed since then. Granted, this makes things.... complicated regarding his age.
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Old February 11 2014, 04:33 AM   #1196
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I'll agree that monologue part was problematic in terms of performance. However he more then made up for it at the end, where he thought his father had turned and he was scared and afraid to be alone and couldn't shoot his dad and was willing to be turned. That was some really good stuff.
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Old February 11 2014, 05:32 AM   #1197
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I'll agree that monologue part was problematic in terms of performance. However he more then made up for it at the end, where he thought his father had turned and he was scared and afraid to be alone and couldn't shoot his dad and was willing to be turned. That was some really good stuff.
Actually, I've taken note that Riggs is elevated a great deal by whomever he is working with. He has a few solid scenes with Andrew Lincoln in the episode as well. I also seem to recall him being quite engaging in the scene he had with Norman Reedus, where they talk about their mothers. It's clear he benefits from sharing screen time with these other quality actors. It's a shame he no longer has Scott Wilson around to play off of. He was another great influence to have around. The kid's got the best acting school a kid can have, Michael Rooker came through, David Morrisey, Jeffery DeMunn, Lennie James. What an education. It's expected that he might struggle on his own a bit
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Old February 11 2014, 06:11 AM   #1198
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...yeah, but DS9 fans have a habit of forgiving a ton of sins about that overrated show.
Shots fired!

And last night's episode was quite refreshing.
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Old February 11 2014, 06:38 AM   #1199
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I enjoyed this one. I thought it was a nice character piece for Carl and Michonne.
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Old February 11 2014, 10:34 AM   #1200
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Did I miss something about the Governor getting a bullet in the head? I thought that scene was implying he was still alive. I hope I'm wrong, because I think we should be all done with the Governor.

This was a good episode. Rick is really in bad shape. I had no problem with Carl's acting, just a problem with Carl-- although he was getting better near the end. He was lucky to be able to get all the childish whining out of his system while his dad was comatose.

As usually, Michonne's was the more interesting story. Now we know why she cried when she held the baby-- no surprise, but it was nice to see it. And I loved the process of her shuffling along with the zombies until the shock wore off, and then backtracking to where she saw Rick's tracks.
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