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Old December 3 2013, 05:50 AM   #856
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Re: The Walking Dead Season 4

I think "Brian's" people were caught up with him by then. When he killed Herschel, they were committed whether they wanted it or not. Add that Mitch (Charlie from Fringe, right?) was waaaay gung ho to destroy just about anything.

Tyrese is now beholden to the kids trained by Carol. In a sense, he's beholden to Carol. Ironic.

I don't think Tara or Lilly have a chance of surviving unless they hook up with someone from the prison. I believe they're the only survivors from Woodbury 2.0?

And Lizzie's got to be behind the rat. Bob the drunk doc wouldn't need to; no other character would need to. She's the only character with enough screen time.

So, are Daryl and Beth gonna bond? He's warmed up to people from where he was (switching places with Carol) and Beth has gotten a lot tougher.
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Old December 3 2013, 07:13 AM   #857
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is the governor dead? this show isn't shy about showing people get killed. We didn't see him die. what we saw was her pointing the gun at him then the screen went black then gun shot. maybe she was going to put him down then a walker got to close and she shot it instead. and he crawls away.
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Old December 3 2013, 07:41 AM   #858
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So what was in Bob's box at the beginning of the episode?
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Old December 3 2013, 09:06 AM   #859
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I wonder if they'll adapt any of the post-prison story lines from the comics. I just read through the synopsis on Wikipedia and it sounds like there are some interesting possibilities in the rest of the comics.
Yes, yes they will.

http://www.avclub.com/article/emsout...ing-emt-104175
The thing is, as in straight after the prison arc, Rick-talking-to-Lori-on-the-phone came after that in the comics, but they've already done that in Season 3. But from the look of the brief 30 sec trailer they'll still have him and Carl alone for a bit with Rick going loopy. Then I guess later they'll come across Michonne.


Quite a good episode, but as others have said the attack didn't really make any sense. I feel like (and expected) this ep should have happened at the end of Season 3, but they wanted to drag out the Prison stuff a bit longer. A nice adaption of the classic #48 of the comics, loved that last shot! Right off the page.
But there was nowhere as much of a death-bonanza as there was in that issue. Just Hershall, that was it?
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Old December 3 2013, 10:36 AM   #860
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^^ I wish the prison had become a permanent home for them.

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^This is what I said to my hubby last night. That would've been the first thing out of my mouth. "Do you know who this guy is? People here escaped from him and we protected them." Or something along those lines.
They way it was directed, it was like he just stood there and stared at them for ten minutes.
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Old December 3 2013, 11:55 AM   #861
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Great episode, The governorís fate was a long time coming though I would have much rather seen him slowly devoured by Walkers or turned and killed again, IMO he just didnít suffer enough for all the heinous $#!t we saw him do.
I also didnít buy him kicking Rickís @ss, I realize Rick was shot in the leg but for the most part the Governor dominated that fight, As a cop I would think Rick would be trained to get out of situations like that and a minimum pull out his side are and shoot the Governor in the face.
Iím also not buying the explanation that planting a few tomatoes civilized him and took away his aggression or whatever, when you are in a fight for life your instincts will take over.

Iím also in the ďJudith is aliveĒ club though I would think it would be a perfect opportunity to write her out, I just donít think lugging a baby around would benefit the show.

Lastly Rest In Peace Herschel, you will be missed, letís just hope Michonne hung back and did the same thing she does in the comics.
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Old December 3 2013, 01:24 PM   #862
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is the governor dead? this show isn't shy about showing people get killed. We didn't see him die. what we saw was her pointing the gun at him then the screen went black then gun shot. maybe she was going to put him down then a walker got to close and she shot it instead. and he crawls away.
Michonne knows how to deliver a fatal strike, so running him through in that exact part of his back was with purpose. If she had a doubt, she would have cut the Governor again when standing/glaring over him.

Lilly simply ended his misery, and even if a walker approached, and she shot it, that would not stop her for getting revenge on the man who did not keep her daughter safe, as promised.
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Old December 3 2013, 02:08 PM   #863
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Lilly simply ended his misery, and even if a walker approached, and she shot it, that would not stop her for getting revenge on the man who did not keep her daughter safe, as promised.
I do not believe that Lilly shot the Governor to end any kind of suffering on his part but rather out of utter spite that he had led her, her daughter, and the rest of the group to ruin.
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Old December 3 2013, 04:23 PM   #864
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Lilly simply ended his misery, and even if a walker approached, and she shot it, that would not stop her for getting revenge on the man who did not keep her daughter safe, as promised.
I do not believe that Lilly shot the Governor to end any kind of suffering on his part but rather out of utter spite that he had led her, her daughter, and the rest of the group to ruin.
I did not mean end his misery out of charity or sympathy (just noting his apparent condition), hence the "revenge" part of the post.
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Old December 3 2013, 04:59 PM   #865
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is the governor dead? this show isn't shy about showing people get killed.
Except when it came to Lori, although that was mostly because it was too much for TV to show a kid shooting his mom. If Judith is dead, it's likely they wouldn't actually show that either.

Overall I thought this was a pretty great episode. I think it's the first one since they found Sophia in the barn that's just really gut-wrenching and makes you think about it for days.

And really, the actors and team behind the show are doing a very good job with this show when they make such a good episode built on so many ridiculous contrivances. Lilly not watching her kid, the people blindly following the Governor, etc. It would be nice if the show could have great character moments, AND not dissolve suspension of disbelief so easily. But that's the Walking Dead for you.
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Old December 3 2013, 05:11 PM   #866
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Tyrese is now beholden to the kids trained by Carol. In a sense, he's beholden to Carol. Ironic.
I'm sure this will come up in the 2nd half of the season; if the girls are trumpeting the virtues of Carol and her training them to fight (which saved his life), only for Rick (or Daryl) to tell him Carol's responsibility in the burned bodies, he cannot attack her after learning how much she means to the girls...the girls who saved his life.

I this being a set-up for Carol's return, and the beginning of a relationship with Tyrese, leaving the door open for Daryl and Beth (convenient that she finds him after the battle).

Beth and Daryl becoming a couple would enrage the Carol/Daryl fans, who thought two season's worth of relationship building is tossed in the fire, but the show cannot keep doing the expected.
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Old December 3 2013, 05:14 PM   #867
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Really, has *any* parent on this show been good at watching their kid? Ed, Carol, Rick, Lori. Seems like child-minding wasn't a strong thing in this universe.

I mean, zombies aside, who lets their kid just sit in a pile of mud and dick around like that?

And people shipping Daryl and Beth.... Um.... Isn't Daryl, like, in his 40s and Beth barely out of her teens?
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Old December 3 2013, 05:28 PM   #868
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Really, has *any* parent on this show been good at watching their kid? Ed, Carol, Rick, Lori. Seems like child-minding wasn't a strong thing in this universe.

I mean, zombies aside, who lets their kid just sit in a pile of mud and dick around like that?

And people shipping Daryl and Beth.... Um.... Isn't Daryl, like, in his 40s and Beth barely out of her teens?
QFT. Shit, virtually ever parent on this show ignores what their children are doing or is oblivious most of the time.

In the non-ZA world today - the real world - in my neighborhood parents on are standing on the corner with the children waiting for the bus every morning as I pull out of my subdivision to go to work.

But in this world - where lethal killers are potentially around ever corner - apparently it's OK to go off wandering around without adult supervision.
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Old December 3 2013, 05:31 PM   #869
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Really, has *any* parent on this show been good at watching their kid? Ed, Carol, Rick, Lori. Seems like child-minding wasn't a strong thing in this universe.

I mean, zombies aside, who lets their kid just sit in a pile of mud and dick around like that?

And people shipping Daryl and Beth.... Um.... Isn't Daryl, like, in his 40s and Beth barely out of her teens?
QFT. Shit, virtually ever parent on this show ignores what their children are doing or is oblivious most of the time.

In the non-ZA world today - the real world - in my neighborhood parents on are standing on the corner with the children waiting for the bus every morning as I pull out of my subdivision to go to work.

But in this world - where lethal killers are potentially around ever corner - apparently it's OK to go off wandering around without adult supervision.
How many scenes in the second season began with Lori asking someone "Have you seen Carl?" or "Can you watch Carl?"
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Old December 3 2013, 05:47 PM   #870
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I think maybe the only thing that could excuse Lilly was that she was so sheltered until that point. However, laundry zombie almost got her kid just the other day, so maybe she'd think to at least sit by her. She didn't really need to be watching the water, but really the other side of the water.
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