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Old December 2 2013, 05:20 AM   #811
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I sort of wish that Rick didn't get punked in the fight between him and The Governor and Rick had been the one to get in the kill and had dominated in the fight. Michonne getting the kill is okay but, really, I think Rick more deserved it. Or maybe better Maggie or Beth.
Michonne got him but it was Lilly that finished him. And deservedly so. Not only was he responsible for everybody who died at the prison, but it was his choice to run off to the prison and not stay with her and protect Meghan that was responsible for Meghan's death. If he would've kept an eye on Meghan like he promised, she would still be alive.
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Old December 2 2013, 05:25 AM   #812
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I'm not convinced she actually did it.
I assume you mean she was covering for Lizzie or Mika? While that's possible, I tend to doubt it, because if was trying to take the blame for someone else's actions, I think she would have shown some remorse for the actions. The problem wasn't just that she was a killer, but that she was so cold about it too.
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Old December 2 2013, 05:28 AM   #813
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Michonne got him but it was Lilly that finished him. And deservedly so.
Well, Michonne's attack created a mortal wound. That's why she left him on the ground. The Governor was already dying when Lilly found him.

By the way...we know severed heads reanimate, so somewhere in that field rests Hershel's head (someone dropped out of a car at the start of the battle).
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Old December 2 2013, 05:28 AM   #814
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I'm not convinced she actually did it.
I assume you mean she was covering for Lizzie or Mika? While that's possible, I tend to doubt it, because if was trying to take the blame for someone else's actions, I think she would have shown some remorse for the actions. The problem wasn't just that she was a killer, but that she was so cold about it too.
Yeah, Carol "owned" the killing of them pretty solidly.
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Old December 2 2013, 05:38 AM   #815
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The Talking Dead didn't put Judith in the "honoring the dead" montage and the discussion seemed to suggest Judith's fate is unknown at this point. I wouldn't count her out, though the bloody carseat makes her fate pretty likely grim. But we won't know, for sure, until February.

I'm guessing Judith is alive. When running for your life, it's easier to do so just holding a baby, instead of holding a much bulkier carseat with a baby in it.
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Old December 2 2013, 06:11 AM   #816
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Quick question: In that final scene with the zombies walking into the prison, they really seem to focus on the one female zombie. They pan up and then stay with a focus on her face for a couple of beats. It made me feel like I was supposed to know who she was, though I didn't recognize her at all. Anyone else catch this or have any thoughts? Or just me?
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Old December 2 2013, 06:13 AM   #817
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She was the girl with the hurt ankle that ran into Rick and Carol a couple episodes back.

Still thinking Lizzy is the rat killer/dissector. Did Lizzy and her sister get away with some of the others or did they stay behind to go feral in the prison?
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Old December 2 2013, 06:19 AM   #818
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She has a face? I was transfixed by her legs! (Though I've a thing for legs in black hosiery.) I agree, though, she's got a face that does well without much makeup (some make-up, naturally, is required when you're on a TV show panel. The make-up artists for TTD simply may not be very good at complementing her looks/complexion. I've seen her in other interviews where she looks great but still must be wearing makeup given the nature of television.)
I've seen her similarly dolled up plenty of times too, & it never looks as good as a more natural makeup or none at all
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Daryl kicked a tank's ass. Daryl kicked a tank's ass!

Let me just say that one more time in case you missed it:

Daryl kicked a tank's ass!!!!!!!!!!!!
He took down a tank, flushed its driver out into the open & put the stupid army hat wearing dipshit down with a fucking arrow

Just about as badass ass the last thing fistbump girl's girlfriend saw was a 11 year old girl put a bullet between her eyes

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If he would've kept an eye on Meghan like he promised, she would still be alive.
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I still got a bad feeling that the baby is done. Of course I could be wrong, as it's not written in stone yet, but upon 2nd viewing, that was a lot of blood in that car seat. If it's secondary, that person is hemorrhaging critically & is in no shape to carry a baby in a carseat or otherwise. All signs point to the tragic
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Old December 2 2013, 06:25 AM   #819
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Quick question: In that final scene with the zombies walking into the prison, they really seem to focus on the one female zombie. They pan up and then stay with a focus on her face for a couple of beats. It made me feel like I was supposed to know who she was, though I didn't recognize her at all. Anyone else catch this or have any thoughts? Or just me?
The long dark jacket was a tip-off; it was the zombie of the Irish woman who tried to lead Rick away to feed to her zombie-husband. The girl with the bum leg was actually eaten--the remaining various parts showed her unusual tattoo; the boyfriend with the bum shoulder was never seen again. See episode synopsis here.
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Old December 2 2013, 07:07 AM   #820
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Well... I'm truly shocked Beth survived! Was certain they'd give her comic Lori's death here. That girl just keeps defying the odds.

It seems pretty likely Lizzy is the rat dissector and Karen/David killer and that Carol was covering for her. I have a feeling that going forward Lizzy and Mika will serve as a stand in for Allen's twin boys in the comics.
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Old December 2 2013, 08:11 AM   #821
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Just about as badass ass the last thing fistbump girl's girlfriend saw was a 11 year old girl put a bullet between her eyes

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If he would've kept an eye on Meghan like he promised, she would still be alive.
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I still got a bad feeling that the baby is done. Of course I could be wrong, as it's not written in stone yet, but upon 2nd viewing, that was a lot of blood in that car seat. If it's secondary, that person is hemorrhaging critically & is in no shape to carry a baby in a carseat or otherwise. All signs point to the tragic
Lizzie taking out Alisha (I think that was the name of Tara's girlfriend) was actually my favorite scene of the entire episode, and that's saying a lot tonight!

Alisha was a badass, she charged all the way up to the prison and had Tyrese pinned down, and then Lizzie (with perhaps some help from Mika) just take her buddy and then her out with single shots. Damn!

So having said that, I'm still thinking (hoping) that Judith is safe too. If Lizzie can take down Alisha and other armed adults, she should be able to protect Judith too.

We'll see of course.
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Old December 2 2013, 08:31 AM   #822
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Lizzie taking out Alisha (I think that was the name of Tara's girlfriend) was actually my favorite scene of the entire episode
That was a strong scene, as Alicia (if that was her name) was annoying, and in trying to be the badass marching her way through, she was put down by a determined child.

...thanks to Carol's psychological re-training, of course.

So having said that, I'm still thinking (hoping) that Judith is safe too. If Lizzie can take down Alisha and other armed adults, she should be able to protect Judith too.

We'll see of course.
I would not be surprised if they rescued Judith at the last second, since she--like Beth--was on a majority of "they're gonna die" lists, only to survive.
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Old December 2 2013, 08:35 AM   #823
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That was a strong scene, as Alicia (if that was her name) was annoying, and in trying to be the badass marching her way through, she was put down by a determined child.
That scene reminded me a bit of Homer Simpson.

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Old December 2 2013, 09:17 AM   #824
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Goddamn what an episode. Really nice job hitting many of the same beats as the comic end of the prison arc (Tyrese/Hershel death, the tank, Lily killing the Governor in disgust, everyone scattered, Rick and Carl limping off alone) while subverting expectations and making good use of the continuing divergences.

I'll be completely shocked if Judith's not dead - the empty bloody carrier is about as close as they probably felt they could come to seeing an infant brutally killed.

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Daryl kicked a tank's ass. Daryl kicked a tank's ass!

Let me just say that one more time in case you missed it:

Daryl kicked a tank's ass!!!!!!!!!!!!
He took down a tank, flushed its driver out into the open & put the stupid army hat wearing dipshit down with a fucking arrow
Daryl's badass credentials are absolutely sky-high now. Crossbow beats tank.

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Well... I'm truly shocked Beth survived! Was certain they'd give her comic Lori's death here. That girl just keeps defying the odds.

It seems pretty likely Lizzy is the rat dissector and Karen/David killer and that Carol was covering for her. I have a feeling that going forward Lizzy and Mika will serve as a stand in for Allen's twin boys in the comics.
I'm more thrilled than is probably sensible that Beth survived. For somebody that's looked several times like easy fodder it's nice to see her keep beating the odds, and hopefully they give her more to do. Having her off with Daryl for however long the group is separated should be interesting.

Lizzy as rat dissector and taking the place of Allen's boys (along with Mika) makes total sense, I definitely agree that's where it's going. No way Carol's just covering for her though, she owned that far too completely - murdering Karen and David is still on her. I also liked how quickly the fallout from Carol's exile was dealt with - Daryl pissed, but comes around after a bit and who knows if it comes up again with Tyrese.

Excited to see where this goes! So let's see, we've got Rick and Carl as one group; Daryl and Beth as another; Maggie, Sasha and... drunk guy... as a third; the bus including Glenn; Tyrese and the girls; and Michonne by herself? It seems unlikely that we'll be dealing with six different groups when the show returns, so I bet some or most of them link back up offscreen.
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Old December 2 2013, 09:19 AM   #825
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I sort of wish that Rick didn't get punked in the fight between him and The Governor and Rick had been the one to get in the kill and had dominated in the fight. Michonne getting the kill is okay but, really, I think Rick more deserved it. Or maybe better Maggie or Beth.
Why Beth?

I'd say Michonne had first dibs, with Maggie behind her, then Glenn, then Daryl, then Rick.

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Daryl kicked a tank's ass. Daryl kicked a tank's ass!

Let me just say that one more time in case you missed it:

Daryl kicked a tank's ass!!!!!!!!!!!!
He took down a tank, flushed its driver out into the open & put the stupid army hat wearing dipshit down with a fucking arrow
The only thing better is Daryl taking out a tank with the crossbow!

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Give the guy a break; he only has so many eyes to go around.

I thought it was pretty cool that there was an explanation built right into the Sand Walker's sudden appearance, even if the whole thing was pretty bizarre. Not like Andrea getting ambushed by a walker from behind a tree last season when she should have heard it coming.

I still got a bad feeling that the baby is done. Of course I could be wrong, as it's not written in stone yet, but upon 2nd viewing, that was a lot of blood in that car seat. If it's secondary, that person is hemorrhaging critically & is in no shape to carry a baby in a carseat or otherwise. All signs point to the tragic
It's possible that someone nailed a walker just as it was reaching for Judith. That would allow for a rescue and also explain the blood. Or Little Ass-Kicker did it herself.

Could anyone tell whether the buckles were open or closed? If closed, that's bad-- she was simply torn out of the carrier.

If open, it could go either way. Either someone deliberately unbuckled her to get her out, or she was never buckled in at all, and anything could have happened.


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By the way...we know severed heads reanimate, so somewhere in that field rests Hershel's head (someone dropped out of a car at the start of the battle).
The "Talking Dead" poll said most people would miss Hershel's advice and wisdom. So if his head is still intact, maybe he could still advise them... ?


Where did Michonne go? Seemed like she vanished right after rescuing Rick.

Tara and Lilly are both still out there, right?
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