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Old December 2 2013, 04:02 AM   #796
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Okay, that was utterly phenomenal. A lot of questions a very separated group and... Wow. When is February, again?
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Old December 2 2013, 04:05 AM   #797
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Holy shit. That was maybe the best episode since the first season. I forgive the Gov. getting 2 episodes now. It was needed given the outcome


Also... I can't be 100%, but a blood soaked carrier is pretty definitive.
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Old December 2 2013, 04:10 AM   #798
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Holy shit. That was maybe the best episode since the first season. I forgive the Gov. getting 2 episodes now. It was needed given they were his last.

I think it's pretty hard to see Judith as anything but walker snack food. I can't be 100%, but a blood soaked carrier is pretty definitive
I had thought Judith was on the bus. I really, really doubt they killed her that seems very dark, even for this show.

I agree this was a very, very great episode. I guess Hershel's "arc" was over especially when it came to him and Rick but as just mentioned in "The Talking Dead" we need a new old man/"moral center" in the show.

But this episode is a LOT to soak in. I'm glad to see the Governor fall. I was very much expecting it/hoping for it but it was well done given the mini-arc he was given over the last two episodes.

But the fall of the prison was pretty much a given.

I sort of wish that Rick didn't get punked in the fight between him and The Governor and Rick had been the one to get in the kill and had dominated in the fight. Michonne getting the kill is okay but, really, I think Rick more deserved it. Or maybe better Maggie or Beth.

God, that was great TV.

I need a smoke.
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Old December 2 2013, 04:11 AM   #799
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Holy crap. Ummm....
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Old December 2 2013, 04:13 AM   #800
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Well at least the actor playing the tank driver, Mitch, will have a role lined up for him whenever they do a Humphrey Bogart biopic.
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Old December 2 2013, 04:14 AM   #801
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The Talking Dead after the montage of kills/deaths in the episode:

Father. Farmer. Doctor. Friend. - Rest in peace, Hershel.
Father. Leader. Tyrant. Madman. - Rot in Hell, Governor.



I sort of wish The Governor didn't get brained. He deserved to become a Walker.
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Old December 2 2013, 04:34 AM   #802
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What a great episode. Tops this season and possibly ever. Glad theya re back on the road, it opens up a lot of new story lines.
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Old December 2 2013, 04:44 AM   #803
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Not surprised about Judith. Just like the Chief/Cally baby in BSG - at a certain point the baby weighs down the characters and they have to get rid of it somehow. Otherwise, where's the baby when they're off saving the universe?
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Old December 2 2013, 04:56 AM   #804
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Not surprised about Judith. Just like the Chief/Cally baby in BSG - at a certain point the baby weighs down the characters and they have to get rid of it somehow. Otherwise, where's the baby when they're off saving the universe?
The Talking Dead didn't put Judith in the "honoring the dead" montage and the discussion seemed to suggest Judith's fate is unknown at this point. I wouldn't count her out, though the bloody carseat makes her fate pretty likely grim. But we won't know, for sure, until February.
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Old December 2 2013, 05:00 AM   #805
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I had thought Judith was on the bus. I really, really doubt they killed her that seems very dark, even for this show.
I hear you, & like I said, I'm not 100% sure, but do the math. What person would take the baby out of its car carrier, making it more difficult to transport? Then leave the carrier full of blood stains, meaning they're hemorrhaging profusely. Contrarily, if a walker fed on the baby & took it, that is exactly what the end result would look like. It's not a closed case, but it's pretty hard to ignore the signs

BTW, Lauren Cohen should never wear makeup. She is one of those rare cases where rouge, lipstick & blue eye shadow actually does an injustice to how amazing beautiful she is
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Old December 2 2013, 05:08 AM   #806
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Not surprised about Judith. Just like the Chief/Cally baby in BSG - at a certain point the baby weighs down the characters and they have to get rid of it somehow. Otherwise, where's the baby when they're off saving the universe?
The Talking Dead didn't put Judith in the "honoring the dead" montage and the discussion seemed to suggest Judith's fate is unknown at this point. I wouldn't count her out, though the bloody carseat makes her fate pretty likely grim. But we won't know, for sure, until February.
There are of course possibilities--but, well, how far could they possibly go in showing a baby killed by zombies?
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Old December 2 2013, 05:09 AM   #807
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Holy crap, what an episode.

Daryl kicked a tank's ass. Daryl kicked a tank's ass!

Let me just say that one more time in case you missed it:

Daryl kicked a tank's ass!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old December 2 2013, 05:09 AM   #808
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Key takeway: the two sisters taking up arms and saving a life. Carol--as always--was right to teach them to fight. There's no getting around that. If the girls were sheltered, guess what would have happened?

Yes, Carol was right.

Hershel and the Governor took the expected direction.

With Beth running off with Daryl, I wonder.....

Carl has now become the new resident badass, never giving up on his father, and fearless.
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I had thought Judith was on the bus. I really, really doubt they killed her that seems very dark, even for this show.
I hear you, & like I said, I'm not 100% sure, but do the math. What person would take the baby out of its car carrier, making it more difficult to transport? Then leave the carrier full of blood stains, meaning they're hemorrhaging profusely. Contrarily, if a walker fed on the baby & took it, that is exactly what the end result would look like. It's not a closed case, but it's pretty hard to ignore the signs
Well, if you're a child carrying a baby in your arms may be easier than lugging around the carseat. Though, yeah, I don't think it looks too good for Judith but it's up in the air right now until we get on-screen confirmation. Whomever picked her up simply may have had secondary blood transfer from the battle.


BTW, Lauren Cohen should never wear makeup. She is one of those rare cases where rouge, lipstick & blue eye shadow actually does an injustice to how amazing beautiful she is
She has a face? I was transfixed by her legs! (Though I've a thing for legs in black hosiery.) I agree, though, she's got a face that does well without much makeup (some make-up, naturally, is required when you're on a TV show panel. The make-up artists for TTD simply may not be very good at complementing her looks/complexion. I've seen her in other interviews where she looks great but still must be wearing makeup given the nature of television.)

Key takeway: the two sisters taking up arms and saving a life. Carol--as always--was right to teach them to fight. There's no getting around that. If the gorls were sheltered, guess what would have happened?
I don't think anyone was ever opposed to Carol teaching the children how to fight and use weapons. Hell, even Rick seemed to more-or-less agree it was a necessary thing. Everyone just had a problem with Carol killing two people who were not a threat.
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Old December 2 2013, 05:19 AM   #810
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I had thought Judith was on the bus. I really, really doubt they killed her that seems very dark, even for this show.
I hear you, & like I said, I'm not 100% sure, but do the math. What person would take the baby out of its car carrier, making it more difficult to transport? Then leave the carrier full of blood stains, meaning they're hemorrhaging profusely. Contrarily, if a walker fed on the baby & took it, that is exactly what the end result would look like. It's not a closed case, but it's pretty hard to ignore the signs
Well, if you're a child carrying a baby in your arms may be easier than lugging around the carseat. Though, yeah, I don't think it looks too good for Judith but it's up in the air right now until we get on-screen confirmation. Whomever picked her up simply may have had secondary blood transfer from the battle.


BTW, Lauren Cohen should never wear makeup. She is one of those rare cases where rouge, lipstick & blue eye shadow actually does an injustice to how amazing beautiful she is
She has a face? I was transfixed by her legs! (Though I've a thing for legs in black hosiery.) I agree, though, she's got a face that does well without much makeup (some make-up, naturally, is required when you're on a TV show panel. The make-up artists for TTD simply may not be very good at complementing her looks/complexion. I've seen her in other interviews where she looks great but still must be wearing makeup given the nature of television.)

Key takeway: the two sisters taking up arms and saving a life. Carol--as always--was right to teach them to fight. There's no getting around that. If the gorls were sheltered, guess what would have happened?
I don't think anyone was ever opposed to Carol teaching the children how to fight and use weapons. Hell, even Rick seemed to more-or-less agree it was a necessary thing. Everyone just had a problem with Carol killing two people who were not a threat.
I'm not convinced she actually did it.
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