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Old November 26 2013, 03:54 AM   #766
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So did Not!Maggie get her hair died darker while The Governor was in the Biter-Pit? It looked significantly different in this episode.
Not sure about your question but I see the resemblance to Maggie isn't just in my head.
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Old November 26 2013, 04:25 AM   #767
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So did Not!Maggie get her hair died darker while The Governor was in the Biter-Pit? It looked significantly different in this episode.
Not sure about your question but I see the resemblance to Maggie isn't just in my head.
Yeah, she looks a little like Maggie, maybe like a slightly older version of her or something. But I'm almost certain last week her hair was brunette/lighter in color and then in this episode as soon as we see Martinez pull The Governor out of the Biter-Pit her hair is suddenly black. I guess one of his men had a bottle of hair dye with him and she made a quick change. It was sort of jarring like we Actual!Maggie suddenly met Rick at the gate and she had apparently put a lovely auburn mist through her hair.
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Old November 26 2013, 06:15 AM   #768
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He killed Martinez for showing self-doubt. He killed his retreating followers for showing cowardice. He's the ultimate follower of the principle of survival of the fittest, and anyone who is not up to his standards of fitness is a danger to the rest of the group and must be eliminated. It's just with the Woodbury raiders, he went nuts and killed half the town.

I'm not saying the guy is right or smart in the way he handles things. He's completely crazy, and manages to repeatedly kill off or alienate his best fighters and scavengers, which is not a sustainable plan for preserving a community. I'm just trying to show how he justifies the horrific nature of his actions to himself.
He kills for whatever whim keeps the ego/evil going. There was no "survival of the fittest" in mortally wounding Milton--so he in turn could transform into a walker and (attempt to)murder Andrea. Similarly, survival was not the reason he murdered the helicopter pilot--or his comrades. Sending Merle's death party after Michonne also had nothing to do with survival, as she was one person--seemingly with no other connections (read: potential enemy camps/threats) other than Andrea, yet he wanted her to die.

He's vindictive, petty (recall his story about his job in the pre-zombie world), and is exactly what you would see if a man who was ignored by the world suddenly found himself in any sort of position of command: abuse and death.
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Old November 26 2013, 07:29 AM   #769
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I think next week's episode will go down pretty much how it does in the comics.
Agreed, sadly.


Alternately, the "smokescreen" idea could work and we cut with the tank slamming a hole through their fortifications to pick up the carnage when it comes back... but it just seems less likely.

Unsurprising that the Governor's back to his old tricks, didn't take long either.
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Old November 26 2013, 11:00 AM   #770
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These past two episodes have been really good. After his bout with mega-PTSD, it seems the Governor was really trying to get his act together. When he killed Martinez, he kept saying "I don't want it," and it seems he really may have had a blackout. I wonder what would have happened if they hadn't run into that big puddle o' zombies; of course, the fact that he didn't try very hard to find an alternate route is pretty telling. I don't know what he's thinking coming after the prison with his new disciples, though-- they aren't exactly a bunch of hardasses.

And in these two episodes we've got at least four camps of humans within driving distance of the prison. Suddenly the Zombie Apocalypse seems more crowded than it did before.
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Old November 26 2013, 01:00 PM   #771
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These past two episodes have been really good. After his bout with mega-PTSD, it seems the Governor was really trying to get his act together. When he killed Martinez, he kept saying "I don't want it," and it seems he really may have had a blackout. I wonder what would have happened if they hadn't run into that big puddle o' zombies; of course, the fact that he didn't try very hard to find an alternate route is pretty telling. I don't know what he's thinking coming after the prison with his new disciples, though-- they aren't exactly a bunch of hardasses.

And in these two episodes we've got at least four camps of humans within driving distance of the prison. Suddenly the Zombie Apocalypse seems more crowded than it did before.
The others seem to be in tents or trailers...so this must be the time of the Gathering In the end, there can be only one!

One crazy plotline idea...there is some massive community out there that has gathered a few thousand people...but the flu and/or raiders will come & create a new generation of Walkers.
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Old November 26 2013, 03:16 PM   #772
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He's vindictive, petty (recall his story about his job in the pre-zombie world), and is exactly what you would see if a man who was ignored by the world suddenly found himself in any sort of position of command: abuse and death.
One thing that was interesting about this episode is when the Governor packs up his new, "family," and tries to leave only to be stopped by the zombies in the mud and turns around to finish off the other guy - he obviously is self aware enough of how crazy he his to try to escape but cannot.

As an aside, I think it's awesome that they added two gay characters - the lesbian couple - to the mix of characters. They are a little bit of a stereotype however as two ex - military ladies and both, 'butch.' But I'll take it nonetheless.
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Old November 26 2013, 04:54 PM   #773
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Only one is military. The sister attended police academy but didn't finish due to zombies.
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Old November 26 2013, 05:54 PM   #774
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I wouldn't call either lady "butch" beyond them just being strong willed which, given the conditions they're living in, isn't that much a thing.
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Old November 26 2013, 06:44 PM   #775
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These past two episodes have been really good. After his bout with mega-PTSD, it seems the Governor was really trying to get his act together. When he killed Martinez, he kept saying "I don't want it," and it seems he really may have had a blackout. I wonder what would have happened if they hadn't run into that big puddle o' zombies; of course, the fact that he didn't try very hard to find an alternate route is pretty telling. I don't know what he's thinking coming after the prison with his new disciples, though-- they aren't exactly a bunch of hardasses.

And in these two episodes we've got at least four camps of humans within driving distance of the prison. Suddenly the Zombie Apocalypse seems more crowded than it did before.
Agree.

Based on this, I think a yet unseen group will be a greater threat that will ultimately unite both Rick and the Governor against a common enemy.
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Old November 26 2013, 11:00 PM   #776
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I think it's more likely the Governor will capture Hershel and use him as his "or else" ultimatum and probably kill him as either a warning or a result of something the Prison group tries to do.
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Old November 26 2013, 11:00 PM   #777
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The Walking Dead Season 4 Has Finished Filming


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Old November 27 2013, 02:45 AM   #778
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"Brian" didn't like it when Lily said that this camp was the first time she felt safe since everything started. He felt minimized in her eyes. Then when Martinez treated him as a lackey with the gold balls...last straw.
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Old November 27 2013, 10:40 AM   #779
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Yeah, I noticed his reaction when she said that. He must be the one to keep everyone safe.
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Old November 27 2013, 03:21 PM   #780
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These two episodes have been pretty useless. As a character study it is somewhat interesting, but it was just 2 hours of watching The Governor turn into the character he was to begin with. He could have shown back up without them and the net effect on the overall story would be zero.
Yep, definitely. This episode was better and more worthwhile than the last one thought. I was excited to see Enver Gjokaj in the cast but then...well.

I was disappointed with Martinez's decisions. He seemed a lot smarter and more capable last season, he didn't seem the type to blindly trust The Governor so easily, and his rationale for keeping him alive was weak.

Before this season I would have thought Glenn was safe, but now I can see him dying. I don't think it will have the same impact had he died in last season though.
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