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Old May 5 2013, 06:16 PM   #1
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"Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here"

Why does the subtitle for this section refer to the 2009/2013 Star Trek movies as "rebooted" if Abrams himself has said it's not a reboot?

http://www.trektoday.com/news/191108_02.shtml
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Old May 5 2013, 06:22 PM   #2
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Re: "Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here"

It looks like a reboot, it sounds like a reboot, so...
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Old May 5 2013, 06:27 PM   #3
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Re: "Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here"

I blame Bonz.
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Old May 5 2013, 06:27 PM   #4
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Re: "Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here"

no matter what the makers of the film say...it is a reboot.
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Old May 5 2013, 08:44 PM   #5
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Re: "Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here"

I certainly agree that it's a reboot, but it is one that does acknowledge what went before it, by the inclusion of Old Spock in the storyline. But this new universe is its own animal and certainly feels like a reboot.
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Old May 5 2013, 08:51 PM   #6
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Because the forum admins wanted to get a rise out of anyone who felt compelled to nitpick at the semantics of the issue.
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Old May 5 2013, 08:55 PM   #7
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I would be inclined to say Abrams is just insulting the intelligence of the average fan who doesn't want to disavow the "prime" continuity, by implying a tenious and minor connection to said prime universe that it somehow doesn't constitute a reboot.

It's just a reboot with a few easter eggs.
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Old May 5 2013, 09:00 PM   #8
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Re: "Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here"

It's a reboot/adaptation/AU type thing. A bit of all three.

I don't mind it being called a reboot, but I wouldn't mind the "Star Trek XI+" changed to "Star Trek + Star Trek Into Darkness" since "Star Trek XI" is an old name from around 2007.
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Old May 5 2013, 10:16 PM   #9
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Abrams Star Trek is NOT a reboot. Additionally, your beloved pet dog that went away is still living happily on the farm.
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Old May 5 2013, 10:27 PM   #10
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King Daniel wrote: View Post
It's a reboot/adaptation/AU type thing. A bit of all three.
Yes, I see no reason for it to conform to a particular model of re imagining. The basic idea is... they'll do whatever they want to do insofar as making more profitable films for the studio. If previous iterations of Star Trek have material they wish to utilize, they'll do so. If they wish to go ahead and contradict established 'canon', they'll do so. Thankfully, nothing's sacred.
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Old May 6 2013, 12:27 AM   #11
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It is a semi-boot. Instead of doing their version of the TOS characters in a straightfoward fashion they played it safe (not the fault of the writers but of the studio; larger budget, higher risk aversion) and went to extreme lengths to tie their stuff into all that came before. ENT, DS9, TUC, Unification, NEM; ST09 is a massive fanwank festival which is again hardly surprising with a fan being in the writing team.

I think Trek needs a clearer cut with the past and above all no involvement of any fan to prevent this incestuous stuff. It is no coincidence that the last two movies, NEM and ST09, were written by fans and tried in vain to copy TWOK. Neither Meyer or Berman were Trek fans when they got into touch with the franchise.
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Old May 6 2013, 09:32 AM   #12
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If it looks like a reboot, and walks like a reboot, and quacks like a reboot, it's a duck.
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Old May 6 2013, 12:31 PM   #13
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Re: "Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here"

Between this and the starship size thread I feel like I time traveled to 2009.
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Old May 6 2013, 12:57 PM   #14
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It's not a reboot but I don't really care if people use 'reboot' as Abrams' Trek shorthand.
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Old May 6 2013, 01:19 PM   #15
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SalvorHardin wrote: View Post
Between this and the starship size thread I feel like I time traveled to 2009.
What exactly is it that makes you think of 02009?
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