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Old May 17 2013, 08:21 PM   #31
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Re: Well, I Figured its Time...

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Fantastic work as always, Atolm!

By the way, I first saw your design on the Subspace Comms, which I go to once every month to look at updates, since not everything posted there gets posted here.

For some reason, I always find swept-forward wings fascinating, more exotic. Maybe because I have a tendency to go with swept-back pylons or wings.

However, the current theory is that Warp Drive works by folding space. I'm guessing that the Space Fold Drive is suppose to work by folding space all the way between the departure point and destination, instead of pulling and pushing space in increments.

I would imagine that would take a lot more energy than Warp Drive, especially the further that you fold space. Perhaps a reason that Space Folding technology was put on the back-burners for the more readily available Quantum Slipstream?

And yes, you do have a tendency to try and push the envelope, while I usually try to to variations on a theme, or make descendants of a given design (actually, it was one of your designs that influenced one of my own!), though it might not be very noticeable, given that I haven't really posted that many designs, and I'm a turtle when it comes to posting stuff, due to being OCD at trying to be perfect, so I have a ton of work that isn't finished, and hence hasn't been scanned or posted.

I guess I should follow your example and post something in the next week or so!

Another thing I've noticed time and again is that your hull plating for your designs is always fantastic looking, but half the time, you don't draw in the weapons.
I'm the opposite, I usually pay great attention to weapons arrays, but the deflector grids and hull platings are usually after-thoughts. I wonder why that is the case, and have always thought that this is because we specialize in different details.
Not necessarily a criticism; more of an observation.

Incidentally, because of the dish at the front of the deflector and the lack of phaser arrays, I'm left wondering if the Halo is TOS-era, even though the overall design says Post-Nemesis era.

So, I'm left wondering, what era is the Halo from?
First and foremost, thanks mate!
now IMO, I post most of my finalized designs, I will post ideas I liked, loved, or was eh about because no matter what, I feel they can be used to be compared and contrasted against by others. I don't presume to be the best designer or anything close, but I do believe I have pushed further than most. Everyone has their comfort level with their work and that same comfort level can and usually does change from genre to genre or subject to subject.
As for weapons vs hull details; To me weapons are not important, it is generally easy for me or someone else to drop them onto a ship. But hull lines to me are just another outlet for me to create. I do have my style, so you obviously can tell my designs from anyone else, and when I design, I try to to conform to some "norms" of the subject, but ultimately it will reflect my interpretation of those norms.
Lastly, I would say this ship was TNG, but there are details in the design I purposely put in to evoke a feeling of TOS, and placed those details as an homage...this does also create the dual option of keeping the observer on their toes
You're quite welcome, but I think you've more than earned the compliments. I always enjoy looking at your designs.
You might not presume that you are the best designer, and I respect humility; I think it is a very good virtue, but I think that many fellow artists and artwork lovers alike think that you are one of the best.

Referring to weapons vs hull details, I guess that weapons placement is a creative outlet for me; determining how well armed a given design is, and where they are mounted, which is often determined by a design's intended predecessors and contemporaries. To me, they are a fun detail, and there is no hiding that I like to think tactically. I supposed I need to learn how to better wrap my head around deflector grids. On some days, they come out looking great, while on others occasions, I think they look lackluster.
And thanks for clarifying the era the Halo belongs to. Not a bad name by the way; not a name used very much in Trek fandom.
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Old May 18 2013, 06:48 AM   #32
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You're quite welcome, but I think you've more than earned the compliments.
Well, it's his own fault that people see "Atolm" as a shorter way of saying "unconventional quality work".
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Old May 18 2013, 03:01 PM   #33
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Great design and really beautiful detail, nice to see such a fluid shape. Reaching for a pencil now, inspired.
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Old May 20 2013, 07:41 PM   #34
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^In instances where this happens, you just know that you're on to something good.
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Old May 22 2013, 02:00 AM   #35
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Thanks mates!
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Old May 22 2013, 07:13 PM   #36
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Time to push the envelope again
Enjoy mates.
I think you may be on to something here... This has the makings for what I think could be a DYNAMITE visual!

But you're holding back too much! You need to REALLY push the envelope. Those nacelles look too much like ordinary nacelles simply bent into a circle - yet they also suggest they're capable of really exotic mind-and-space-warping stuff! GO for it!
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Old May 23 2013, 02:19 AM   #37
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Time to push the envelope again
Enjoy mates.
I think you may be on to something here... This has the makings for what I think could be a DYNAMITE visual!

But you're holding back too much! You need to REALLY push the envelope. Those nacelles look too much like ordinary nacelles simply bent into a circle - yet they also suggest they're capable of really exotic mind-and-space-warping stuff! GO for it!
you mean like this?
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Old May 23 2013, 02:35 AM   #38
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Time to push the envelope again
Enjoy mates.
I think you may be on to something here... This has the makings for what I think could be a DYNAMITE visual!

But you're holding back too much! You need to REALLY push the envelope. Those nacelles look too much like ordinary nacelles simply bent into a circle - yet they also suggest they're capable of really exotic mind-and-space-warping stuff! GO for it!
you mean like this?
YES! That is EXACTLY what I was imagining.

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Old May 23 2013, 11:05 AM   #39
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lol
That's the one I've been working on now.
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Old May 23 2013, 03:21 PM   #40
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Re: Well, I Figured its Time...

Man, I'd hate to have to try and get from one "end" of this ribbon ship to the other! Seriously amazing work!
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Old May 23 2013, 06:48 PM   #41
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lol
That's the one I've been working on now.
For what it's worth, your design with the circular nacelles has inspired me as well.

Actually, I woke up one night in the middle of the night a few nights ago after staying out all night, bolted upright in bed, and had to root around in a frenzy looking for a piece of paper - ANY piece of paper - to jot down some sketches before the ideas drifted away.

I saw my own version of a circular nacelle ship (with my own stylistic preferences for thinner, more wispy shapes, naturally) in nearly completed form. And as I said, the circular nacelles suggest some serious space-and-mind-warping action going on there - but 2D static drawings don't convey it well. I need to learn how to do 3D models and animations.

As soon as I pull the sketches together into something that conveys what I'm going for, I'll post it. Thanks for the inspiration!
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Old May 23 2013, 08:47 PM   #42
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Its is something really unusual Chris! By my side, makes me remember the Ori ships, from Stargate.
I noticed you already named one of your older concepts as "conceptfederationreyesc".
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Old May 23 2013, 10:23 PM   #43
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lol
That's the one I've been working on now.
For what it's worth, your design with the circular nacelles has inspired me as well.

Actually, I woke up one night in the middle of the night a few nights ago after staying out all night, bolted upright in bed, and had to root around in a frenzy looking for a piece of paper - ANY piece of paper - to jot down some sketches before the ideas drifted away.

I saw my own version of a circular nacelle ship (with my own stylistic preferences for thinner, more wispy shapes, naturally) in nearly completed form. And as I said, the circular nacelles suggest some serious space-and-mind-warping action going on there - but 2D static drawings don't convey it well. I need to learn how to do 3D models and animations.

As soon as I pull the sketches together into something that conveys what I'm going for, I'll post it. Thanks for the inspiration!
That's my job, so No mate, thank you.

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Its is something really unusual Chris! By my side, makes me remember the Ori ships, from Stargate.
I noticed you already named one of your older concepts as "conceptfederationreyesc".
Thanks mate. I can see the "Ori feel" of her, if asymmetric. The ship will be my newest version of the Reyes. I always make the most unhindered designs I have take my namesake... so this one, when finished, will be the USS Reyes.
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Old May 23 2013, 10:29 PM   #44
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Man, I'd hate to have to try and get from one "end" of this ribbon ship to the other! Seriously amazing work!
Thanks mate
I'm pretty sure that if that ship was to be made, transporters would be a much more common means to get to places.
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Old May 23 2013, 10:43 PM   #45
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Man, I'd hate to have to try and get from one "end" of this ribbon ship to the other! Seriously amazing work!
Thanks mate
I'm pretty sure that if that ship was to be made, transporters would be a much more common means to get to places.
UNLESS the crew were always drunk on Romulan Ale.
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