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The Next Generation All Good Things come to an end...but not here.

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Old May 8 2013, 05:50 PM   #31
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Re: The stupidity in Booby Trap

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We never got a scene in any of the Trek shows or movies where thrusters would have been sufficient to get the ship from A to B. They can get the ship moving at a crawling pace, such as when piloting out of a spacedock. But if that's the best they can do, they would have to operate for months if not years to get the ship to another planet, through an asteroid belt, or whatnot.

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IIRC in the very first episode of DS-9 the entire station was moved to it's new location by the wormhole by using it's thrusters. True O'Brian did some technobabble with the station's deflector shields to reduce it's mass, but it was also much larger than a Galaxy class ship and it traveled a considerable distance.

The destruction of the ancient ship was the worst thing aboutthis show for me. No reason for it- there have been hazards which needed to be studied (like the Dyson Sphere) and they did not have to destroy them after they escaped.
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Old May 8 2013, 06:05 PM   #32
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Re: The stupidity in Booby Trap

Given how this episode has four credited writers, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the writers weren't all on the same page. One writer probably wrote all of the asteroid scenes while another wrote all of Picard's obsessive fascination with the ancient starship. One writer probably told another "Oh, don't forget that the crew have been spending time with an ancient, dead alien ship" and the other writer thought "Ah, so the ancient alien ship is the cause. Picard would want to destroy it" without realizing that parts of the story have Picard regarding the alien ship as a treasure.
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Old May 8 2013, 08:39 PM   #33
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Of course, Picard could be the Dr. Belloq sort of amateur archaeologist, rather than the Dr. Jones sort - if he can't have this Promellian treasure chest, then nobody else can, either! He'll just rationalize his childish pride by claiming that removing the ship will be the best way to remove others' unhealthy interest in it.

Picard is known for destroying ancient artifacts left and right, just because. Tox Uthat is gone (for the time being)...

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Old May 8 2013, 10:09 PM   #34
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Of course, Picard could be the Dr. Belloq sort of amateur archaeologist, rather than the Dr. Jones sort - if he can't have this Promellian treasure chest, then nobody else can, either! He'll just rationalize his childish pride by claiming that removing the ship will be the best way to remove others' unhealthy interest in it.
I... don't think that's an accurate comparison. For one thing, Belloq was no "amateur" archeologist. He had knowledge of language that Indy lacked ("you could warn them if only you spoke hovitos") and was able to convince the nazis to work with him. In fact, he had a great respect towards his find when he wanted to make sure that the Ark was indeed the genuine deal rather than take his payment and leave. He wanted to see it for himself.

Indy on the other hand was willing to blow up the Ark with a freaking rocket launcher. Belloq knew Indy wouldn't do it so he called his bluff.
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Old May 9 2013, 04:55 AM   #35
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... Err, that means he wasn't willing to blow it up.
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Old May 9 2013, 11:00 AM   #36
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... Err, that means he wasn't willing to blow it up.
Neither was Belloq.
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Old May 10 2013, 11:19 AM   #37
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Okay, that was sort of the scene I was referring to, but obviously it's not such a good example at all. It just sort of hints that Jones upheld certain morals while Belloq was at most neutral on them, as well as capable of cynically exploiting others' convictions.

Blowing up the cruiser would be a blow to promelliology, no doubt. But there'd be plenty of aceton assimilators to study, no doubt making the mentharologists jump up and down like Ferengi and salivate like Porthos.

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