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Old July 22 2013, 10:03 PM   #691
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No, the blue thing and the dome aren't the same, it's merely a funky bridge ceiling. You can see the dome in the bar scene I posted, they look nothing alike.

And if the domes at the top and bottom of the 16+ deck lobby aren't the top and bottom domes on the saucer, what are they supposed to be?
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Old July 22 2013, 10:04 PM   #692
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Yes it is under the dome, would you like me to upload the scene from the 2009 movie that shows the camera moving to outside of the bridge after the Enterprise arrives at vulcan?
You might want to look at that scene a little closer yourself. There is a similar shot in Into Darkness, seen here and again at the end of the movie:

An oval room at the front of deck 2, directly in front of the lobby, which rests under the dome.
Yeah this blue ring is directly under that dome. The atrium is somewhere else.

http://1-akamai.tapcdn.com/images/th...79-animate.jpg
Where did you get that nonsense?

Here's the bridge as seen in the movie
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Old July 22 2013, 10:05 PM   #693
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You might want to look at that scene a little closer yourself. There is a similar shot in Into Darkness, seen here and again at the end of the movie:

An oval room at the front of deck 2, directly in front of the lobby, which rests under the dome.
Yeah this blue ring is directly under that dome. The atrium is somewhere else.

http://1-akamai.tapcdn.com/images/th...79-animate.jpg
Where did you get that nonsense?

Here's the bridge as seen in the movie
It's the panoramic view from the Star Trek movie site for the 2009 movie.
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Old July 22 2013, 10:06 PM   #694
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http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=211333&page=46

Remember, the lobby has to fit in behind the bridge, as seen here. The bridge itself is not under the dome on this Enterprise, and it certainly does not fill the structure:

The two sets fit perfectly at 2380'/725m, as I've shown.

Yes it is under the dome, would you like me to upload the scene from the 2009 movie that shows the camera moving to outside of the bridge after the Enterprise arrives at vulcan?
You might want to look at that scene a little closer yourself. There is a similar shot in Into Darkness, seen here and again at the end of the movie:

An oval room at the front of deck 2, directly in front of the lobby, which rests under the dome.
Thanks King Daniel, the screenshot clearly shows that the bridge is not under the dome, also from the shot of Kirk on the communicator it looks like he is behind the bridge and one floor above judging by how close he is to the dome behind him.
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Old July 22 2013, 10:07 PM   #695
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Yeah this blue ring is directly under that dome. The atrium is somewhere else.

http://1-akamai.tapcdn.com/images/th...79-animate.jpg
Where did you get that nonsense?

Here's the bridge as seen in the movie
It's the panoramic view from the Star Trek movie site for the 2009 movie.
Except someone tricked in the wrong ceiling, as we can see from the movie cap. And here's the bridge from STID: No ring
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Old July 22 2013, 10:08 PM   #696
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Yeah this blue ring is directly under that dome. The atrium is somewhere else.

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Where did you get that nonsense?

Here's the bridge as seen in the movie
It's the panoramic view from the Star Trek movie site for the 2009 movie.
That dome in the picture is not high enough to be the dome you see on the outside shot that King Daniel posted.

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Old July 22 2013, 10:13 PM   #697
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Where did you get that nonsense?

Here's the bridge as seen in the movie
It's the panoramic view from the Star Trek movie site for the 2009 movie.
Except someone tricked in the wrong ceiling, as we can see from the movie cap. And here's the bridge from STID: No ring
That huge blue "ceiling" is actually just the interior of the pod thing hanging down over the captain's chair in the pic you posted. The 360 panorama has distorted the hell out of it and made it look enourmous.
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Old July 22 2013, 10:13 PM   #698
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Where did you get that nonsense?

Here's the bridge as seen in the movie
It's the panoramic view from the Star Trek movie site for the 2009 movie.
Except someone tricked in the wrong ceiling, as we can see from the movie cap. And here's the bridge from STID: No ring
It's from the movie's official site. Sorry Daniel you don't work for paramount so your technical drawings is purely a fan effort.
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Old July 22 2013, 10:16 PM   #699
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It's the panoramic view from the Star Trek movie site for the 2009 movie.
Except someone tricked in the wrong ceiling, as we can see from the movie cap. And here's the bridge from STID: No ring
That huge blue "ceiling" is actually just the interior of the pod thing hanging down over the captain's chair in the pic you posted. The 360 panorama has distorted the hell out of it and made it look enourmous.

I'll find the link to the panoramic view thats interactive, it's out there I've used it before.

http://www.startrekmovie.com/panoramas/bridge.html
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Old July 22 2013, 10:17 PM   #700
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Thats a set diagram! From the makers of the movie. Didn't you click the link I gave you? There are no doors at the front of the bridge.
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Old July 22 2013, 10:20 PM   #701
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Here's the link to the thread where I posted the set plan: http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=219844

Here is the site I got it from. Not a fan effort, the real deal: http://www.harryottodesign.com/gallery.html
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Thats a set diagram! From the makers of the movie. Didn't you click the link I gave you? There are no doors at the front of the bridge.

I got confused, sue me. I'll download the picture and superimpose it to see if it fits the way I think it does.

Oh I know where the atrium window is!!!!!! It's under those windows behind the bridge. Although the floor plans are a bit vague since that would mean the rear corridor has a decline so that they can lead to the lower decks. I always wondered what was inside those windows that's in the same place as Refit 1701's conference room.

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It seems the USS Vengeance may actually be larger than we thought. It's 2.5x the Enterprise's size in this graphic:
[ IMG]http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac330/KingDaniel01/vengeance_graphic.jpg[/ IMG]

And here's the ever-changing bridge window. It seems the taller, narrower veraion seen when the Enterprise is on the Klingon border and again at the very end correctly matches the window on the set (which has a definite height of 8', I guesstimated a width of 25'):
[ IMG]http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac330/KingDaniel01/bridge_window_change.jpg[/ IMG]
Forgive the shitty quality of the pics, they're from YouTube clips. Enterprise pic from www.cygnus-x1.net.
You took the youtube image from prometheus' video, lol I've watched those dozens of times, it's kind of funny how the nacelles look normal size from the front in that shot. That first person vs ship image was a joke, I remember seeing that for the first time and was like "hey the window isn't THAT small".

Has anyone else noticed that the floor plan diagram make it look like sickbay and the transporter room are at the same height with the bridge? They are both below the bridge in the saucer section just like in the original show and TNG. There has to be stairs that just aren't show in the diagram. It's also weird how when the neck and secondary hull got hit when Enterprise arrived at Vulcan that the sickbay exploded. I'm working on superimposing the diagram. This will take a while.

Check this image out from the blu-ray, 948' times two equals 1896'

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YENremF4m0...comparison.jpg

This was a pain in the ass, lol. As you can see the bridge size is about 99% spot on, I noticed where the bridge window was it's the blueish light slot in the front of the dome.

http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a510/SubaruBRZ/Enterprisetopwithbridge_zps781dea3e.jpg
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Old July 22 2013, 11:39 PM   #703
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P.S. I came here to have fun and do some debating not get harassed so kindly back off and refrain from responding to every one of my posts like a stalker. I still can't believe I've attracted a stalker that fast.
So you want to be able to post misinformation without being challenged? You came to the wrong tavern.
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I want Scotty to stare into the camera during the next film and say "This is a 700 meter-long starship, laddie."
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I want Scotty to stare into the camera during the next film and say "This is a 700 meter-long starship, laddie."
It sure would solve much of the shit about the size.
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