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Old May 1 2013, 09:29 PM   #16
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Re: Please premier the next Star Trek movie in America first!

Hey, you didn't get TOS first, so why should it be any different now?

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Old May 1 2013, 09:50 PM   #17
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Old May 1 2013, 10:15 PM   #18
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Its out a week earlier overseas because Iron Man 3 is out a week early. It gives Trek valuable breathing space before the behemoth that is 'FAST AND FURIOUS 6' releases overseas. FF6 is a much bigger film at the international box office than Star Trek unfortunately.
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Old May 1 2013, 10:18 PM   #19
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Nothing against our international Trekkers but please. It's an American produced movie it should be shown here first. Just like Lord of the Rings should have premiered in Australia/New Zealand first (and maybe it did I dunno).
In much the same way that we in England got Star Wars first ?
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Old May 1 2013, 10:39 PM   #20
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Whatever it gets released in the USA UK this film needs to be a hit and I'm sure paramount pictures and JJ are working really hard to do that !!! So I can't wait !!!! UK premier tomorrow so so love to be there !!!
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Old May 2 2013, 12:09 AM   #21
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Whatever it gets released in the USA UK this film needs to be a hit and I'm sure paramount pictures and JJ are working really hard to do that !!!
Wholeheartedly agree! That's the most important thing... that and that it's really good. Hell, we can get last in November. as long as it's a great story. Hope you enjoy it and know I'm happily jealous.
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Old May 8 2013, 01:13 PM   #22
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For the first time since the Avengers, I feel lucky for once to be in the UK.

Tomorrow at 13:30.

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Old May 8 2013, 06:13 PM   #23
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Foreign box office is the major weak spot of the last JJ Abrams movie, so they're doing an all-out push to fix that for this film.
Can't say it's a weakness per se as foreign box office (last I read) generally accounts for about 1/4-1/3 of worldwide box office which is how it played out for 2009's Star Trek [Of course there are some very notable exceptions to that of which Star Wars episodes I-III and the Lord of the Rings trilogy are examples].

Having said that, always room for improvement.

I wouldn't be surprised if the foreign gate is much higher than the domestic for this outing.
I would, but that is based largely on past performance and competition. Fast and Furious VI is also a strong performer and Iron Man 3 is still going pretty strong. Crowded field.

So no, the next Trek film will most likely not premiere in the US first. Just like Iron Man 3, which is making a killing overseas.
Agreed. It's kind of sad though ... it's like if new seasons of Doctor Who started premiering in America first - just not right.

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I might be surprised at it being much higher, given the past performance of Trek films overseas, but I think Paramount wouldn't be terribly unhappy if the international box office receipts came close to equaling to the domestic take. That would make for pretty respectable numbers.
Um, except that in-and-of itself would represent a "much higher" foreign box office. A 50-50 worldwide B.O. would be huge over a normal haul of 25-35% foreign. Star Trek Into Darkness topping out around the 40% may be more plausible.

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I'm curious. What is the rationale for releasing it overseas first?
Money.

I'm also wondering whether it has anything to do with cutting down the erosion of overseas revenue by piracy, by limiting the circulation of prints in the U.S. (digital or otherwise) before the movie is made available outside the U.S.?
Good point to ponder though piracy, in my opinion, is a bit of a straw dog by the entertainment industrial complex.

Anyway, I just think it has much more to do with (as others have said or alluded to) building up foreign box-office and Hollywood's long ago move to a more global business model (not having all their eggs in one basket).
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Old May 8 2013, 08:18 PM   #24
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I'm curious. What is the rationale for releasing it overseas first?
Money.
Well, yes, but the point I was after is more money by what means, exactly?
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Old May 8 2013, 09:30 PM   #25
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Foreign box office is the major weak spot of the last JJ Abrams movie, so they're doing an all-out push to fix that for this film. I wouldn't be surprised if the foreign gate is much higher than the domestic for this outing.
I might be surprised at it being much higher, given the past performance of Trek films overseas, but I think Paramount wouldn't be terribly unhappy if the international box office receipts came close to equaling to the domestic take. That would make for pretty respectable numbers.
Um, except that in-and-of itself would represent a "much higher" foreign box office. A 50-50 worldwide B.O. would be huge over a normal haul of 25-35% foreign. Star Trek Into Darkness topping out around the 40% may be more plausible.
I was speaking to the question of the foreign take being much higher than the domestic, and I still don't believe we're likely to see that sort of giant leap in international box office numbers. I think Paramount might be quite happy with a 40% overseas figure, which is indeed plausible, when compared to previous breakdowns* (and if they see 45% they may well be ecstatic.)


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*** . U.S. . International
TUC . (77.3%) . (22.7%)
GEN . (64.1%) . (35.9%)
FC ... (63.0%) . (37.0%)
INS .. (62.3%) . (37.7%)
NEM ..(64.3%) . (35.7%)
ST ... (66.8%) . (33.2%)

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Old May 9 2013, 03:45 PM   #26
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Should debut on the same day all over the world.

I've had to avoid reading the paper, looking at the internet for weeks now.

At last its over for me at least
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Old May 9 2013, 04:13 PM   #27
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Should debut on the same day all over the world.
Films rarely do this because distributors like to aim their films at appropriate holiday seasons to maximise profits. Some countries have four school terms, others have three, or two semesters.

If every US "summer season" film came out in Australia simultaneous with the US, we'd only ever see blockbusters Down Under in the dead of winter. Our own Aussie summer movies would air in the USA when many people were snowed in.
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